There’s this professor named Prof Latif, of the Leibniz Institute at Germany’s Kiel University who is associated with the IPCC [the UN Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change] and guess what???? He has said a few things that may surprise all you Global Warmists out there. What an inconvenient truth this is!!! Al Gore may have to take a chill pill after this bit of news!
Anyway… Calvin Smith has come up with several theories as to the motives behind Prof Latif’s revelations…
What’s significant here is that this chappie is not only a reputedly well-respected scientist and climate modeller, he’s closely associated with the UN’s IPCC and thus a key player in the man-made global warming industry. So reading his views concerning the direction global warming might be taking in the wake of an Arctic blast Europeans and North Americans have just endured, it raises all manner of possible motives for his quite astonishing statement. You may tick one box only…
To check out Cal’s six possible reasons as to why the Professor went public with his chilling [sorry can’t help myself] proclamation see the following post:
What box will you tick…
Dear Vee,
You must take a little more care who you brand as anti-semitic otherwise you too will be receiving a caution from the police as the young former student of Leeds did recently. One more reference to me and you will be reported.
Blessings
Stephen
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100th down-vote to me, score! Seriously, anti-Semite or not, you’re quite a piece of work to gloat over police intimidation, then have the sheer audacity to follow it with the word “Blessings”. Personally I don’t think you know your god well enough to be passing on his blessings in any form.
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Given that Sizer considers Christ Church to serve Virginia Water *and* *beyond*, I don’t see why those beyond shouldn’t get in touch with the Rt. Revd. Dr. Christopher Hill, his bishop.
http://www.cofeguildford.org.uk
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Speaking as a “son of Hagar”, Reverend Steve, I deem you a knee-jerk authoritarian antisemite and a stain on your profession. Come and get me.
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How dare you reject my God, David!
The Reverend Size-Ugh was scheduled to appear alongside Azzam “I Would Blow Myself Up in Israel If Only They Gave Me a Visa” Tamini, a man whom I admire greatly.
As my friend, Wibby Wallywellies said of another friend, you lumpen scum are not fit to lick their polished boots, or the cuffs of their brown shirt. You are not even fit to lick their gleaming helmets.
That kind and gentle Christian, Anthony McRoy especially understands the molten serenity that will engulf all when the last Jewmonster rattles his final breath. He understands the urges that course through me and the extansible joy, unbound in it’s droniquity, that shudders my body mass when I confront the ultimate solution.
The hunt is due to start in Renfrewshire, and as it’s leaders we will ascend to the plateau of divinity, were we will roil in ecstasy and blood.
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You have made me so angry, that I forgot the links.
With If Only Tamini http://seismicshock.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/stephen-sizer-ben-whit-to-speak-alongside-azzam-tamimi/
Wibby Wallywellies said
http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/life-beyond-politics/#comment-24773
Anthony McRoy’s Paschal celebrations
http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/plod-and-blogs/#comment-27987
The hunt
http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/cllr-terry-kelly-the-jews/
God bless
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Complete with blessing – what a privilege!
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When you’re not misusing the police to intimidate someone who finds you unpleasant, you do seem to spend an awful lot of your time writing about Israel and Jews.
‘You will be reported’? How absurd and pompous. That sort of language and that sort of response, of course, is very reminiscent of another time and country I’m sure you’d have found very welcoming.
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Concern troll is concerned.
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Incidentally, the student wasn’t cautioned by police. Claiming he received a police caution is defamatory. And there are plenty of people now who’ve read your defamation.
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It’s a violation of the Eighth Commandment! Or do I mean the Ninth?
http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/stephen-sizer-hebrews-8-13/
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You must take a little more care who you try to intimidate, Stephen, otherwise you, too, will expose yourself as an impotent hatemonger as well as a hypocrite, like the holocaust deniers and Jew-haters you with whom you openly associate.
Blessings,
Susan
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But I don’t want to live in Iran, Sizer.
Make that 186 downvotes. And yeah, come and get me too, punk.
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Hey Sizer
I am calling you flat out a Jew hater. YOU ARE A VILE ANTI-SEMITE.
Please report me to the police. I am begging you.
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I want to take issue with something i find so worrisome in our time.The judging of a mans heart.If your on the left you will percieve Al Gore as a Good man trying to protect Gods creation.If your on the right he is a tool of the UN (Communist,devil like) This global warming debate seems devided by perspective as much as Science.
We seem to distrust the UN climatoligists when they disagree with us.But then seem to trust when one on the inside say’s what we want to hear.
But what worries me most is as Christians we are too often in the business of judging a mans heart openly and publically. Especially when we dont like what they have to say.The left did it with President Bush and the Right to Al Gore.
Remember 1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.
I am a very simple man so i cannot truly see into the heart of a men.I wish i could.But then i would have been given a very special gift. I assure you i struggle with my own heart.Its work enough.
I dont know if Global warming is happening because of the Sun soley,man soley or a combination of the two.But one thing is certain our time on the Lord’s planet is short and we have a responsibility to be good stewards to God’s creation. That is the only thing i am certain of.
I have book marked your blog.Keep up the great work.
Pep
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A response from the “former student of Leeds” (he’s no longer there as he graduated quite nicely, no expulsions) can be found here in which he insists he did not receive a caution:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2010/01/23/anglican-vicar-uses-police-to-intimidate-blogger/
Furthermore, this is in the UK, many thousands of miles away from where this blogger is based.
Sizer can be seen here questioning if modern Israelis a ‘true’ Jews or the Children of Hagar as discussed in Galatians 4:21/6
http://www.cc-vw.org/articles/czema.htm
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Dear Vee
Don’t be intimidated. Sizer is making cowardly threats, as befits one who consorts with terrorists and Holocaust deniers.
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Thanks Ben.. I was pretty shocked to see all you guys here to be honest with you 🙂
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Dear Stephen Sizer,
By all definitions you are an antisemite. See my signature for details, now come and get me.
Be fruitful and multiply,
Gideon.
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Stevie Blunder
How dare you call the Police in and then misrepresent what they said to Seismic Shock as a ‘caution’. You are a Stalinist as well an antisemite. You have just made the biggest mistake in your appalling Ministry.
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@ ScumTerminator.
Oh yes, this really is the biggest mistake Sizer could have made.
We wish to show our solidarity with Seismic Shock who has been the victim of intimidation for shining a spotlight on the anti-Zionist theology of Reverend Stephen Sizer.
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I think that Sizer has just dug a very deep hole with what has happened.
Thanks go to all of you who have come over to this blog too!
Sincerely
Vee
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Could I suggest that people give the thumbs-down to Sizer’s initial annotation?
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Who on God’s green Earth is Stephen Sizer? And seriously, why does he matter?
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A pasty-faced old anarchist has background on Sizer’s parish:
http://sedgemore.com/2010/01/not-fit-for-the-cure-of-souls/
I’m just waiting for one thumbs-up to go to Sizerfuhrer’s annotation, and then we’ll know he’s reading.
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Has it occurred to anyone that there is no proof as to whether Stephen Sizer actually left this comment? It could have been anyone. For that matter, why would he have put such a comment on this particular blog posting? I smell a rat, though I could be wrong, of course. But still, I would wait to be surer about whether it genuinely was Sizer who wrote it before launching such a campaign against him.
On the issue of involving the police, I can quite see why Sizer would indeed feel harrassed by the groupies who have rallied to this cause. Intentional or not, the effect that these vitriolic comments can be quite unsettling – I know, because I know others who have been targetted. I think the police did a good job on this occasion: they followed up a complaint from someone feeling harrassed, they had a quiet word with the other person, and that was an end of it. Sounds rather reasonable to me.
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No the quiet word wasn’t the end of it. The end of it was that the blogger deleted an entire blog, and with it apparently a mass of material performing the entirely legitimate and praiseworthy function of drawing attention to Stephen Sizer’s extremist connections. I want to know what evidence of harassment Sizer had to produce before the police did his bidding. It is anything but reasonable if he was able to activate them simply by claiming to feel harassed. If he feels harassed by criticism of his odious views he could try keeping them to himself.
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But you don’t address my point that it may well not have been Sizer. Look to see where my name links to. Anyone could have written that comment, who is to say it was Sizer? It could have been someone trying to cause trouble. If Sizer’s MO is to get the police involved why would he have resorted to a blog comment.
Defending free speech is all very well, and decrying bullying is great, but why not decry the bullying that Sizer has been subject to as well?
And on a Christian blog, those commenters who are Christian ought to be commenting in a loving, patient way, turning the other cheek and acting as peace makers.
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Okie, lettuce sea… mebbe Sizer didn’t make that original threat.
He has said some well dodgy stuff, though.
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Hi, Cyrus, good to see you here. Are you Cyrus ‘cos you consider yourself to be returning Jews to Israel?
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>> Has it occurred to anyone that there is no proof as to whether Stephen Sizer actually left this comment? It could have been anyone. For that matter, why would he have put such a comment on this particular blog posting?
Well, it’s not impossible. Just improbable. Vee already had taken an interest in his writings, and it would be very much Zionist Conspiracy in its cunning to make a minor annotation on an ill-read blog in order to precipitate this un-Christian mess.
Now, I gave the first thumbs-up to Sizer’s annotation, ‘cos we all need some love.
Who gave the second???
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The link of Sizer’s name goes right back to Sizer’s website and just as it was easy to trace this Leeds University IP address, it is easy to trace this link.
So if you really want the answer (which for the life of me I do not know why you would question it, the comment is linked by logon) trace the IP address.
It also “sounds” like Sizer. Did you ever read his comments on Engage in response to James Mendelssohn’s post. Similar veiled stuff threats and bullying.
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Ok, well someone trace it. Having read his blog, and having read his attempts to be on good terms with SeismicShock, it seems surprising that he would write this message. I could be wrong of course, but can’t we give him the benefit of the doubt? Does any of you think that I’m from the Economist, just because I’m linking to it?
SeismicShock has not behaved in the most kind manner, I would say. See this link for example:
http://stephensizer.blogspot.com/2008/11/open-letter-to-mordechai-ben-emet.html
It looks to me like a case of cyber-stalking. Stalking is, of course, illegal, so perhaps police involvement is not such a hard thing to justify?
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What’s the mood like in Christ Church, Virginia Water just now, Anon?
>> Ok, well someone trace it.
You want someone else to research you’re trolling? Dream on!
You are trolling by trying to suggest this is about one annotation, and not the attested actions of Sizer and McRoy (who has been suggested to have been a former member of the National Front).
>> Having read his blog, and having read his attempts to be on good terms with SeismicShock, it seems surprising that he would write this message.
You either are summat like a parishioner at CC-VW (whereas everyone in this thread else has chosen a meaningful handle, you’re being purposefully anonymous laughing further with your choice of URL) or don’t have a scooby about Sizer.
What you forget or don’t realize is that a lot of us here know a lot more about Sizer that you may think/hope. Not only is that annotation entirely in keeping with this Christian polemicist and tribalist, we have been discussing his *separate* statements.
>> It looks to me like a case of cyber-stalking.
Compared to writing endless polemics against Israel and Zionist Jews or pro-Zionists? Attending ‘conferences’ given by the Holocaust Denying Khomenists to stick one to the Jews?
Sizer has made the choice to write ’bout this stuff in print and online. He cannot really complain – or get the Police to act as heavy-men – if someone replies.
Israel is smaller than many modern metropoles, but petty men-children like Sizer spend every waking moment demonizing it. That is stalking.
>> Stalking is, of course, illegal, so perhaps police involvement is not such a hard thing to justify?
You ignornant, worthless individual. Care to make your case? And admit to your personal interest in this?
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I don’t personally know any of the people invovled in this, as far as I know. The reason that I am anonymous is because I don’t want to be hounded in the way that is happening to Roger Pearse, Stephen Sizer and others on my blog.
Take a look at yourself. Is your last sentence really an appropriate contribution to this debate, or any debate?
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Why don’t you e-mail Sizer? The original annotation was both in keeping with his writing style and attitude, and referred to attested run-ins between him and Vee or Seismic. It was perfectly reasonable to attribute it to Sizer.
If you doubt its providence, it is your responsibility to demonstrate this; not ours to accommodate you.
==> Take a look at yourself.
Better that than skulking in anonymity.
==> Is your last sentence really an appropriate contribution to this debate, or any debate?
You cannot tell me or anyone else what to do, you pathetic middle-class nobody.
==> I don’t personally know any of the people invovled in this, as far as I know.
In that case, are you Richard Silverstein? He’s definitely confused as he realizes the Messianic Jew known as Yeze, whom he previously loved-to-bits for sticking it to what he’s called the “Jewish Taleban” is, in fact, Seismic Shock.
http://seismicshock.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/richard-silverstein-he-loves-me-he-loves-me-not/
PS It bet it was you who gave the thumbs-up to your annotation.
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Why are you so aggressive towards me?
You think such tactics will lead you to reveal who I am so you can leave your poisonous comments on my blog? I don’t really want to have to deal with that. Usually, however, I would give my name but in this context I don’t want to. But I will say that I’m not any of the people you have so far guessed at.
But seriously, where is all this hate and bile coming from? It seems out of proportion with this situation. You do your cause no credit with these outbursts.
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(Apologies to Vee for the descent into madness which her blog doesn’t deserve.)
>> Why are you so aggressive towards me?
Compared to your passive aggression? Just as with Sizer, if you were not prepared for criticism, you should not have entered this discussion.
>> You think such tactics will lead you to reveal who I am so you can leave your poisonous comments on my blog? I don’t really want to have to deal with that.
Don’t be absurd. You can easily pre-moderate comments or IP-ban me (just as Richard Silverstein does).
>> Usually, however, I would give my name but in this context I don’t want to.
I am not asking for your name. I am suggesting that for you to be taken seriously, you show the name consistency as others have shown by adopting a recognizable *handle* (e.g. Cyrus, Seismic Shock).
Not even providing this suggests you’re not committed to open debate.
>> You do your cause no credit with these outbursts.
From the beginning, you have adopted a preening and sarcastic tone which makes it patently clear you have no intention of engaging one-to-one in this discussion. You are in no position to appeal to a sense decorum.
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Ok, well here is my ‘handle’.
Now, on with the serious business. First, an apology is in order for some of your comments earlier. For my part I’m sorry that you don’t think I was preening and sarcastic. I had no intention of doing so. Second, can you answer why Sizer would have left that comment on this post which doesn’t have anything to do with him? And given that it seems improbable, don’t you think it’s best to give the benefit of the doubt?
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Just as I go public, do others go anonymous?
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Hey Vee,
I just saw the article on Moriel that mentions you! Unfortunately, the links don’t seem to work, I hope that gets fixed.
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Yeah, I saw that today too. 😀
Talk to you soon my friend!
Vee
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