Dawkins and Hawking speak about ID somewhere out there…

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The common thought is that six day creationists are are crazy lot – some type of modern day flat earthers. Crazy because they believe in things that can’t be scientifically be proven so therefore giant leaps of faith is needed to reconcile evidence with so called fact.

We young earthers are very use to the insults and have evolved pretty thick skin over a number of years because of the flack thrown at us by those within the evolutionist camp. Oh dear, perhaps that proves evolution… hmmmpppff.

You would have to be a buffoon not to understand that the evidence around us is all the same but it’s how we interpret that evidence and what model we use in which to interpret said evidence which differs greatly. There are fossils and there are layers and the list goes on and on and on. How we choose to interpret why and how those fossils and layers got there in the first place is speculation on BOTH sides!

Seriously, after reading the following quote that I have put in this post do you think that evolutionary pundits are grasping at straws, just a little bit? I mean, the further science goes into bio-genetics and DNA the more it points to ID and not just random chance! Evolutionists are pretty much flogging a dead horse these days which is quite amusing… I kinda feel sorry for that horse!

They still think Darwinian evolution happened but perhaps not on this planet but on another. They push the problem of ID to some far away galaxy.

I am soooo reminded of the Star Wars intro here…

A long time ago in a galaxy far,
far away….

….evolution happened and then those aliens came to earth and seeded our planet and that accounts for all intelligent design we find here on our planet.

It gives the term ‘Replacement Theology’ a WHOLE different meaning don’t it? … 😀

All jokes aside…if you are new to this theory which is called ‘panspermia’ then you can read another post about it HERE. And at the end of this post I will put up several links that I have written, just in case you are interested. The theory of Panspermia has major biblical implications that you may or may not be aware of. [Hint: as in the days of Noah. Nephilim!] And if you do a little research you will soon see that ID, Panspermia and Aliens have prophetic ramifications for the Church.

Also, if you want to listen to Dr. Jonathan Sarfati discuss this topic on BEL radio go HERE, tis most fascinating.  Dr. Sarfati is the world’s #1 creation author [ see Dr. Sarfati] who takes on the world’s #1 evolution author Richard Dawkins in the battle of the books.

So anyway, here’s the article that pretty much sums up the leap of faith that Dawkins and Hawking have recently made…

Dawkins said, “Well, [the origin of life on earth] could have come about in this way: The evidence may show, as we look at the complexity, as we look at the genetic mechanisms, that might be evidence that a long time ago, far far away in another galaxy, that there was a civilization that evolved by Darwinian means. And that civilization designed life and seeded it on our earth.”

So Dawkins actually says that life on earth could be that it could have originated from a higher intelligence, from somewhere out there, which came and put intelligent life on earth. And that is what scientists get fired for, their careers ruined, for saying that microbiology might be evidence that life did not evolve on earth but was put here by some intelligent agent. And Dawkins is the world’s leading evolutionist, and we have him on film admitting the reasonableness of Intelligent Design.

[…]Meanwhile, the World’s Leading Atheist Scientist Goes Insane: First, end-of-the-world doomsday prophet astrophysicist Stephen Hawking wants mankind to respond to the problems of global warming by colonizing the Moon or Mars evidently forgetting that the Moon’s daytime temperature is over 200 degrees (107 C) and that neither location has liquid water or oxygen.

[…]Now, Stephen Hawking is urging mankind: “Don’t talk to the aliens!” Why not? They may be mean! [source]

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2 thoughts on “Dawkins and Hawking speak about ID somewhere out there…

  1. Hi Living Journey,

    Yeah, I think the majority of scientists or science oriented lay-people do think YEC’s are kind of crazy lot. There is so much implied in your stance that flies in the face of known facts…yes, I know you reject the facts and have your own group of scientists who mostly also have a Doctor of Divinity degree. And I purely know that nothing I say will convince you otherwise. Of course you already know that the science that I back is testable and provable by 99% of the scientists in the relevant fields…whereas your scientists (1%) cannot provide evidence that is testable or checkable or peer-reviewed…and that is fine by me, the world needs diversity. 🙂

    But I feel the need to address a couple of the things you are writing here…in a friendly way.

    You write:
    “There are fossils and there are layers and the list goes on and on and on. How we choose to interpret why and how those fossils and layers got there in the first place is speculation on BOTH sides!”

    You probably know that the science of stratigraphy was actually started in England in the 1700’s and has been proved over and over again ALL over the world…there really is no speculation about its viability or truth. It truly is proven, but I know you reject it.

    You write:
    “Seriously, after reading the following quote that I have put in this post do you think that evolutionary pundits are grasping at straws, just a little bit? I mean, the further science goes into bio-genetics and DNA the more it points to ID and not just random chance! Evolutionists are pretty much flogging a dead horse these days which is quite amusing… I kinda feel sorry for that horse! “

    I know** at least 40 scientists that would strongly challenge that DNA and any kind of genetics leads to an ID view or in any way proves any of the tenets of ID. ID is just a concept that has no scientific work behind it…no one is experimenting or making and testing hypothesis and trying to prove any of the assertions some ID people have put forward.

    Michael Behe of course wrote his book about the ‘irreducible complexity’ of life parts and forms and the need for an Intelligent Designer to make them and was shortly thereafter proven verrrryyy wrong. There are other examples out there on the web and I won’t bore you with repeating them.

    I keep seeing and hearing from the creationists and YEC’s and fundamentalists that evolution is dead or somehow being proven wrong on a daily basis, but the relevant scientists seem to know nothing about this assertion, and go about their work still believing it and using it to predict and hypothesize and prove its relevance to our world…but, I know you reject it.

    Another thing I know you reject is the current 40+ methods of dating artifacts and materials and rocks even though they support each other when cross checked and even though there are some YEC’s and fundamentalists that actually work in the field and are confident that the methods work…but, I know you reject it.

    You write about Richard Dawkins and his talking about “Panspermia” and seemingly ridicule the idea and Dawkins admitting the possibility. He is not necessarily promoting ID here, at least not in the way you think about it. Another vision of Panspermia is that life, in its simplest form, was propagated by meteors or comets (and we know the earth was bombarded by billions of them over time) and then evolved from that point over billions of years. There is nothing at all illogical about this concept and many scientists do accept this as a possibility. The thought of an advanced race doing the seeding I guess could be a possibility, but I would think the meteor/comet theory is more viable (travel time vs. lifetimes).

    The trouble with the religionist ID is that it depends on a god who performs magic, and science does not deal with magic…at all.
    Those same scientists reject religion and the Bible solely on the basis of the impossibility of magic. Magic has never been demonstrated or proven to work, now or in our past, in our world, but I know you accept it.

    Boy does Panspermia ever have ramification for religion. 🙂 All that Adam and Eve and Original Sin (which Paul invented) and humans being so special in god’s eyes stuff just goes out the window.

    You know there is a line in the Bible where Jesus says to ‘suffer not a witch to live’ and the early church took and killed up to 3 million poor people before they realized that witch’s are not possible because there is NO magic. And the same early church killed un-numbered poor people in the various Inquisitions, who they thought were guilty of such crimes as heresy and blasphemy and atheism and other essentially non-crimes. That’s neither here nor there in what we are discussing here, but it just bothers me, and I have to vent occasionally. 🙂

    You write:
    “…doomsday prophet astrophysicist Stephen Hawking wants mankind to respond to the problems of global warming by colonizing the Moon or Mars evidently forgetting that the Moon’s daytime temperature is over 200 degrees (107 C) and that neither location has liquid water or oxygen.”

    We have already figured out that we can get oxygen from moon rock and how to do it, and recent explorer surveys have found frozen water on the moon’s surface. I don’t know about Mars at this time, but will research it.

    ** add to that the few million I don’t know. 🙂

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