I went over to one of my favourite blogs ‘More Books and Things’ and read a post called ‘Things are Changing – Reformation in Reverse’. In that post Carla quotes a most disturbing thing…
…A man stands at the lectern at the El Amor de Dios church on Chicago’s South Side reading in Spanish, tears streaming down his cheeks. His text is a treatment of the Virgin Mary from one of the Bible’s apocryphal books. Another congregant follows, reciting his own verses to the Virgin from a dog-eared notebook filled with tiny, precise printing. Flanking the altar are two Mary statues with fresh roses at their feet, and hanging from the hands of the baby Jesus is a Rosary. The altar cover presents the church’s most stunning image: Mary again, this time totally surrounded by a multicolored halo, in the traditional iconography of the Our Lady of Guadalupe.
The church is Methodist.
This Mariolatry is gaining ground around the world and the evangelical, ecumenical and interfaith movement.
Recently my youngest daughter was in town and she was handed a newsletter called ‘The Medjugorje Sentinel’, she brought it home for me because she knew that I would be interested in reading it. I did read it and I really wanted to blog about it, time permitting.
I have to say that Mariolatry is most definitely ecumenical and interfaith… no question about it.
[please note where the capital letters have been used in the following quote found in this newsletter. The capital letters pretty much implies Mary is a divine being, even a co-redeemer! Many statues of Mary found in Catholic Churches show Jesus as dead, not having finished His work on the cross as seen on the left.
We also have new bibles having been translated that leave out the capitals when referring to the Godhead, yet we see that Mary is being elevated to a position reserved only to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. See HERE for more on Mary the co-redeemer.]
Here is what is written in the newsletter…
Our Lady calls upon all Her children to convert to God. Only then will the world find peace, which only God can give. She says that the only way we can obtain this peace is through prayer and fasting, and that this call to conversion is urgent. “When God comes, He will not be joking”, She says. Our Lady also says that this is the last time She will appear on earth, which is why She has been appearing for so long – unprecedented in the history of mankind.
The Madonna calls us to pray a minimum of 7 Our Fathers, 7 hail Mary’s and 7 glory Be’s every day. She asks us to fast on bread and water at least each Friday. She tells us that we have forgotten that with prayer and fasting, wars can be prevented – even natural laws suspended, and is the key to overcoming sexual obsessions, drug addiction, drinking et. For those who cannot fast, She says they should give up TV, smoking, alcohol or other pleasures.
[…]She tells us that Holy Mass and the Eucharist are where Jesus – truly present – gives unbelievable graces for conversion.
First thing, the bible never says that Mary will appear on earth as a sign to point to Jesus, that is the Holy Spirit’s role! Secondly I question what ‘Our Lady’s’ idea of conversion actually means.
Well, the newsletter does elaborate on this. This quote is EXACTLY how it appears…
NOW is the period of great grace, and has been given to us for time to convert to God. She also stressed that ALL MANKIND IS EQUAL BEFORE GOD and that we should respect on another’s beliefs. Man is responsible for these divisions – not God, She says.
Really. God is NOT responsible for divisions? According to Jesus – who really is part of the triune Godhead, NOT Mary as the newsletter suggests – He said He did come to divide…
Mat 10:34 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
Mat 10:36 And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.
And as far as respecting or tolerating another’s belief, we live in a PC world and everyone has the right to follow their own belief system. But does that mean we have to respect that belief system?
I want to point out that there is a verse that says something that doesn’t sound so PC…
This sounds so strange to us today doesn’t it. What could this possibly mean? What does the bible say concerning hate?
We quickly begin to see a pattern by which God is making a distinction between those merely acting in ignorance of His Word from those proactively working against Him. And up front I’m going to let it be known that the greatest object of biblical hatred is not the general sin and fallen nature of the world at large. No, the primary target of “hate” in alignment with biblical teaching has much more to do with those claiming to be part of the Kingdom but who teach and live as diametric opponents of it. The roots of biblical hatred can be characterized as an extreme intolerance for hypocrisy, backsliding, and false teaching.
[…]I know there are those who think the continuing discussion about the Church Growth Movement, the Purpose Driven agenda, the Emergent Church Movement, the march toward Ecumenism and many other related “approaches” to how a church should operate is nothing but one man’s opinion versus another man’s. Is it really? When God Himself despises wrong worship and in turn fosters in us an equal response of hatred for it, is it just a “difference of opinion”? Every historical and biblical instance of a false movement gripping the very innards of God’s people all began with a corruption of worship. And God Himself defines such people as hating Him because if they loved Him they would…
“…worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
— John 4:23
How tolerant of alternative worship approaches should we be when God Himself considers it an act of hatred? [When Christians are called to hate]
The word Tolerate is an interesting word. God is not happy when His people tolerate acts of worship that isconsidered idolatry…
Rev 2:20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate your wife Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit fornication and eat things sacrificed to idols.
Who was this Jezebel?
- That woman Jezebel – There is an allusion here to the history of Ahab and Jezebel, as given in 2 Kings 9:1-10:36; and although we do not know who this Jezebel was, yet from the allusion we may take it for granted she was a woman of power and influence in Thyatira, who corrupted the true religion, and harassed the followers of God in that city, as Jezebel did in Israel. Instead of that woman Jezebel, την γυναικα Ιεζαβηλ, many excellent MSS., and almost all the ancient versions, read την γυναικα σου Ιεζαβηλ, Thy Wife Jezebel; which intimates, indeed asserts, that this bad woman was the wife of the bishop of the Church, and his criminality in suffering her was therefore the greater. This reading Griesbach has received into the text. She called herself a prophetess, i.e., set up for a teacher. [Adam Clarke]
- Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit (k) fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. (k) Often in the scripture, by fornication they mean idolatry. [Geneva]
- As Balaam, in Israel’s early history, so Jezebel, daughter of Eth-baal, king of Sidon (1Ki_16:31, formerly priest of Astarte, and murderer of his predecessor on the throne, Josephus [Against Apion, 1.18]), was the great seducer to idolatry in Israel’s later history. Like her father, she was swift to shed blood. Wholly given to Baal worship, like Eth-baal, whose name expresses his idolatry, she, with her strong will, seduced the weak Ahab and Israel beyond the calf-worship (which was a worship of the true God under the cherub-ox form, that is, a violation of the second commandment) to that of Baal (a violation of the first commandment also). [Jamieson, Fausset and Brown]
These are just three commentaries on Jezebel… you should read Gill’s commentary! He doesn’t hold back when it comes to the Church of Rome.
From this we learn that wrong worship of the true God is in fact Baal worship. If you want to learn more about this see this comment HERE.
Considering what the bible says about Baal worship, idolatry, consuming things that have been offered to idols [The Roman Catholic Eucharist] and tolerating those systems which indulge in such practices, we have to ask the question… are the words from ‘Our Lady’ biblical in anyway?