Ok, I have had a number of interesting comments on one of my posts called ‘Passive and Pro-active, is there such a thing?‘ and I thought that instead of writing a long winded post about the effects of Political Correctness and the right to Freedom of Speech in democratic nations, I would just put up a poll for now.In the post I was discussing the rights of certain groups in Israel called the Messianics or the Yeshuims and how they have recently been given the courts backing to be allowed to carry on with their church and their community. The courts noted that they are not missional, so therefore are a passive, political group. This brought to my mind the following question…
So it you want to weigh in please feel free to do so.The post in question briefly spoke about religious offence and some people have come back with some very interesting points that I would like to quote.
Vee:You said: How politically incorrect to say that Jesus is the only way.I’ll be blunt; I’m a Jew, and I find that statement “offensive;” however, that is not to say that you shouldn’t say it. Who am I to pass judgement on your religious beliefs? Michael from Oleh Musings, who I am fast considering a mate (Insert Aussie colloquialism here) of mine.
As for dealing with the Messianic, Michael says the following:
As for religion, well, since you quoted Maimonides:“I believe with perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah, and though he may tarry, still do I believe.”Notice, for us Jews, the future tense….
Well, as a Christian, I pray that you find Messiah in the not so distant future, better sooner than later I say. :)And Tania, another good friend of mine, brings up some interesting thoughts on Jewish Missionaries:
Even before Jesus, there were Jewish missionaries. Examples are like Jonah, who went to gentiles to tell them to repent from their ways and turn to God. It shows that the Jews had a purpose in telling the world about God and that God also cared for the gentiles. It was a Jewish thing to proselytize others and not until after Jesus and Rabbis who added greek philosophy and other ideas to Judaism, did this stop.
And speaking once more on Maimonides, Tania recalls:
It is interesting that Maimonides said that he thought Jesus was sent by God to turn gentiles to the one true God of Israel. So he by doing this said “its ok for the gentiles but not for us!”
Interesting… because someone has also said that …”If Jesus is not the Jewish Messiah then He is not the Christ for Christians”. Or something much along those lines.One Messiah – Two Comings is a good article by Yakov Prasch to get your head around the concept of Messiah Joseph – Messiah David, many people don’t understand this and because of this lack of understanding there is a danger to think that their could be two messiah’s. Yes, there are two kinds of Messiah, but the Messiah is a Messiah for all nations.
There are two kinds of Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament – the “Suffering Servant” prophecies (seen in the Servant Songs of Isaiah and elsewhere, and in some of the psalms of David), and also the “Davidic Messiah” of the conquering triumphal King who will subdue the enemies of God, establish the Kingdom and bring in worldwide peace, reigning from Jerusalem.If Jesus is not the Messiah of the Jews, neither is He the Christ of the church. They mean the same thing: “Christ” and “Messiah,” the “Anointed One.”Jesus has not fulfilled all of the Old Testament prophecies as yet. He has only fulfilled the “Son of David” prophecies in a spiritual sense, not yet in an historical sense. For Jesus to be the Messiah, He must fulfill all the prophecies.The ‘Suffering Servant’ Messiah is called HaMashiach Ben Yosef, the Messiah, the Son of Joseph. The ‘Conquering King’ Messiah is HaMashiach Ben David, the Messiah, the Son of David.
Ah…. even Yakov Prasch has heard of that phrase about the Jewish Messiah being the Christ for Christians otherwise He is no Messiah at all. Yakov uses Jewish Midrashim to explain this concept of One Messiah – Two Comings, an excellent read.Anyway, from the comments from some very astute people that I happen to respectgreatly, I have been left with a few ideas on future posts, thanks guys for your input.