Faith Undone – A new Messiah awaits!

Roger Oakland recently sent me an email about a new book he has written… Here is the blurb:

The emerging church – a new reformation or an end- time deception
by Roger Oakland

Published by Lighthouse Trails

Note from Author:

In the not-too-distant future, most evangelical pastors will have to decide whether to support or reject the spirituality behind the emerging church. If this movement continues unfolding at the present pace, mainstream Christianity will be completely restructured, and the biblical gospel of Jesus Christ will be considered obsolete. If I believed for one minute that this movement was just another passing whim or the discontent rumblings that so often occur with young people as they search for answers to life, I would never have written this book.

But sad to say, the emerging church is far more than a fleeting fad and much more than the complaints of a group of young leaders. It is indeed a new way of being Christian and its objective is to usher in a new reformation throughout the world.

Those who refuse to embrace this direction will be considered spiritual oddballs that are hindering a unified one-world spirituality that is promoted as the answer for peace and that is prophesied about in the Bible. I know these sound like preposterous concerns. How could a movement that seems so unorganized and mismanaged do so much damage? The answer to that is the reason I wrote this book. For behind this new kind of worship, this new kind of church is a strategic apostasy and maneuver by the prince of this world, the enemy of our souls, to literally take apart the faith of millions-it will be nothing less than faith undone.

Chapter by Chapter Overview can be found here at Roger Oakland’s website.

This would be a great book, and one well worth the read.

This also brought to my mind what it means to have a ‘Faith Undone’.

Interestingly, a ‘Faith Undone’ is classic deconstructionism at work (or is it deconstructionalism, is that even a word?).

Deconstruction was a word that made it into high-popular culture, a word that Jacques Derrida gave birth to. John D. Caputo has taken that philosophy and is the one person that has blended that philosophy with theology within the post-modern emerging church.

In a post called ‘A weak theology — A weak God‘ I wrote the following:

I have found some interesting quotes from people who have analysed Caputo’s work, and from my understanding, the outcome of ‘Deconstructionism’ and its theological and doctrinal implication is something that we as Christians may have to deal with in the not so distant future.

What does Derrida and others who now favour deconstructionism and Post-stinkin-modernism as the way forward for our world offer at the end of it all? What precisely is it that Christians may have to deal with in the not so distant future?

What is the desired outcome?

According to Caputo after total deconstruction, you are only left with the undeconstructible!

And what may that be?

The undeconstructible is the subject matter of pure and unconditional affirmation –“viens, oui, oui” (come, yes, yes) — something unimaginable and inconceivable by the current standards of imagining and conceiving. (Pdf file – Jacques Derrida by John D. Caputo Syracuse University)

Where does this lead?

It is of no surprise, that according to Caputo, Derrida would start talking about religion, a religion that is without religion. He even spoke of the Messiah! Caputo understands it this way:

Deconstruction, it turns out, is not nihilism; it is just high standards! Deconstruction is satisfied with nothing because it is waiting for the Messiah, which Derrida translated into the philosophical figure of the “to come…, the very figure of the future, of hope and expectation.

For we pray and weep for something that is coming, something I know not what, something nameless that in always slipping away also draws us in its train. (Pdf file – Jacques Derrida by John D. Caputo Syracuse University)

Yes that’s right, Caputo is one individual that is giving insightful theology to the emerging church. A theology in a new form that post-modernists love. Caputo is just one of many who will tear down the church to build a ‘Faith Undone’. This will ultimately leave the church wanting and expecting a new kind of Messiah and the old Weak God outside of His own House knocking to come in.

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock: If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will enter to him, and I will dine with him, and he with Me.

Do you hear Him?

6 thoughts on “Faith Undone – A new Messiah awaits!

  1. i am sorry, but i think you may wanna rethink some things.

    i am by no means an emerging church member. and i have first hand met some who are going way too far astray. but i can also attest that there are those who are in the movement who are right on. there are also some accused of being in that movement, but arent. and finally, the movement itself isnt all bad.

    there are a lot of good things within the community. for instance, doesnt the Scripture tell us that JC should be Lord of all our life? this is emerging. doesnt the Scripture say that we are to love ALL people? this is emerging. didnt the early church live together in a much closer community? this is emerging.

    so while there are some who have rejected the Truth within the movement, there are some who havent as well.

    if you are going to lambast them, at least point out what specifics are wrong. and dont just say they are all going to hell.



  2. I don’t believe that I said anywhere in this post that all within the emerging/emergent community are going to hell at all.
    What I did say however, is that there <em>is</em> a philosophy being introduced, that philosophy could deconstruct things so much and that desconstruction could possibly include the deconstruction of the Truth. Of course I have concerns with that. If Christ is The Truth, then who is to say that even Christ Himself is not deconstructed?
    Caputo has been asked to speak within the emerging church village. I just quoted some of Caputo’s works.
    I have also read how Caputo understands what Derrida’s hopes were for the end … when deconstruction has finished its work by pulling everything apart.
    Caputo himself is not even sure what the outcome of deconstruction will be (of course he cannot be sure, a post-modern cannot be certain of anything!) but he does have a desired outcome as did Derrida.
    Their desired outcome is what I have quoted.
    I am very pleased that there are those who are still holding onto the Truth within the emergent/emerging camp, good on them. So they should! Although holding onto the Truth may very well cause division eventually within a community that wants to dialogue using deconstructive post-modern conversation. There effectively can be no end to it… it can go on and on and on, because nothing can ever be said for sure. Post-modernism is useless and it is a self defeating philosophy, it leads to nowhere and says nothing at all. How can that lead people to truth? It confuses, obfuscates and cannot deny nor confirm anything at all, therefore it has to be silent on the matters of truth.
    I tend to agree with most of what Roger Oakland says about the emergent/emerging church. And I do share his concerns, obviously time will tell and the outcome will become very apparent.
    Here is a list of articles written by him:
    “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth” (John 17:17, KJV).


  3. Peter,

    “if you are going to lambast them, at least point out what specifics are wrong. and dont just say they are all going to hell”

    I’m trying real hard to find where Vee said that…maybe you can help me out here…


  4. pbandj said,”doesnt the Scripture say that we are to love ALL people?”

    This is one of the problems with anyone trying to support with the gospel without knowing the gospel. We are to be known by our love which is God’s love in us, the kingdom of God is within us.
    The careless ‘love everybody’ is used without the inherent responsibility to understand the truth.


  5. I have been waiting and wanting the Holy Spirit just to blow in and take over the Church. So many of us left the Church of our parents because the truth was lost in the ritual. With no substance. We all flocked like birds to the Jesus movement. We studied the Bible, found the Gosple, and preached it from the roof tops. Repent the end is near! Soon…40 years have gone by. Now alot of ex-hippies are now pastors. Now I sit in a Church where “Worship” is about 30min.. followed by a message from the Bible line by line, precept by precept… a good teaching. I have a head full of teaching, 20 years worth, really good information(information is NOT bad), but I need something more, I want to experiance God in my life. I yearn for the days of the sacred ritual to honor God. Aba Father. Going to Church when I was a child felt Holy,not from objective truth but feeling God was really there. Jesus said “Be like little children.” I want both. I want objective truth about God and a sanctuary where I come to feel God in Church. I love to gather together and to take my experance with me, at home , my neighborhood, and to people I meet. I want to invite people to Chuch to come and see God both in knowledge, power and holyness. A Church that has only ritual, has died. A Church must teach about relationship with God in an atmosphere of holiness. I am tired of sleeping in Church and thinking I better get my act together. God’s Church must have Spirit and Truth, and be on fire where it moves people. When people ask me how I am doing I can say,”Let me telI you how I believe the Holy Spirit is blowing through my Church.” This is NOT just the Power of a positive Mind, or Purpose driven Life, but it is God through Jesus sending the Holy Spirit, coming to meet us where we are. My Father does not serve stones, when I ask Him for bread. I need transformation, connecting with God, with joy in service with my brothers and sisters in holiness. Giveing to God my affection,attention, and abilities.
    Repent ! God is here, He will transform your life


  6. Repent for the Lord is coming. Every revival in the bible and every biblical revival since has been after a genuine repentance.

    It has not been conjured up by this man’s process or that man’s formula. It has been after man has seen how he needs a saviour because he has recognised that he is nothing but sin and deserves Hell because of his damned nature. This is the one thing that sets Christianity apart from every other religion. That man and his programs, formula’s etc., simply cannot cut it. And that the only way back for humanity to be with his God is through the blood of the lamb.

    As far as sometimes losing that loving feeling of God’s Holiness. When we first become Christians we are in a very definite honeymoon phase of the relationship. Is that suppose to last, or are we despite of what we feel to continue being faithful and loyal.

    I have often wondered as this generation has been brought up on the Hollywood idea of relationships which are pretty much an unrealistic way of continuing a strong committed relationship, whether because of this we apply something not too dissimilar to our relationship with Christ. As Christ’s bride we wait patiently always ready and expect him at any time. We remember our first love, and we are not to forget it, but there comes a time when the wooing is not always with us as it was in the beginning. This is when maturity sets in and we remain faithful as we have not had the wedding ceremony yet.

    2Pe 3:4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    2Pe 3:9 The Lord of the promise is not slow, as some deem slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not having purposed any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

    Thanks for your comment 🙂


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