Angel Emma the HimShe…
Thanks to Carla from More Books and Things she — yes she — found a review written by someone about Todd Bentley’s new book called ‘Reality of the Supernatural World’.
In this book he — yes he — describes his angelic encounter with an angel. That angel has been well documented, first by him — yes him — and has been a hot topic around the blogosphere right across the globe as being called Emma, the female angel. A She!
Yet…
Because of the controversy surrounding this angel’s appearance, Bentley has changed his tune as to the gender of this angel and on his website and now calls this angel ‘a particular angel’ a gender neutral angel.
However…
According to Bentley’s own book this angel who use to be a She angel called Emma, is now a He angel…
In Todd Bentley’s new book, Reality of the Supernatural World, Todd Bentley wrote the following:
“A while ago, Bob Jones told me about an angel that helped birth the entire prophetic movement in Kansas City in the 1980s. The Lord had sent this angel to help nurture the prophetic ministry (and gift), at a time when it was being re-established in the modern-day church in North America.
“A few weeks after our conversation, I attended a church service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the meeting an angel glided in. As I stared wide-eyed at the angel, I heard the Lord tell me that this was the same angel that was involved with the prophetic movement in Kansas City. The angel floated a couple of inches off the floor emitting a brilliant light and colors. He appeared young - about 20 years old - but old at the same time. It was as though he carried the wisdom, virtue, and grace of Proverbs 31. .“He carried bags and pulled gold out of them. Then as he walked up and down the aisles, he put gold dust on people. “God, what is happening?” The Lord answered that the angel was releasing gold, which represents both the revelation and the financial breakthrough that He was bringing into that church.
And from this same site they have a link [dated the 8th of June] to Bentley’s stupidly embarrassing, lame excuse about all of this which is a must read. What I find quite amusing [in a very sad kinda way] is that he says that he actually does have a doctrine of angels… yet he seems very confused about that particular doctrine!
Get your heresy right Mr Bentley!
Related:
What are Silly Sheeple?
I found this good post today…
The Silly Sheeple Syndrome is a disease that takes away reason and common sense and allows for the sheep to be taken advantage of physically mentally spiritually and financially. This disease is widespread and not limited to those flocking to Lakeland seeking signs and wonders…..The Silly Sheeple Syndrome can be seen in every denomination and in every area within what’s commonly referred to as the Body of Christ. Here are some examples of the Silly Sheeple Syndrome;
A warning – measure everything up with the Word of God please!
I just thought I would mention that although I have certain links in my sidebar, this does not mean that I endorse everything contained within these websites.
I have recently been made aware about this month’s newsletter from the “Christian Classics Ethereal Library” written by the director of C.C.E.L Harry Plantinga. In it he talks about “Mysticism” being at the very heart of Christianity…
As I was growing up, my church experience seemed somewhat heady to me—concerned more about correct belief than about actually loving God. Whether or not that was a correct perception, I wanted more. I wanted not just to know about God, I wanted to know God, though I may not have put it in those terms at that time.
Christian mysticism addresses that longing of the heart. Early in The Imitation of Christ, Thomas writes, “Let the learned be still, let all creatures be silent before You; You alone speak to me.” I don’t want to hear about you from others, I want to know you myself.
He goes on to explain the meaning of mysticism…
Webster defines mysticism as “the doctrine that it is possible to achieve communion with God through contemplation and love without the medium of human reason.”
He then points to a study group, the topic, “Practical Mysticism” and this group uses the writings of Evelyn Underhill.
Lighthouse points out the very real dangers of such mystical practices and has done a very good job in documenting information from key authors and the underlying relationship between occultism and contemplative mystical communion. So, instead of just me rambling on I will just give you the link… here is the Lighthouse article on this matter.
Remember that communion with God without the medium of human reason flies in the face of what God actually says when He spoke to Isaiah…
Isa 1:1819 “Come now, let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land.
The Higher Symbol and Human Evolutionary Consciousness
This is a RED FLAG post!
Are you aware that there is a symbol being used to represent higher human evolution? I reckon we will start to see this particular symbol — however subtle — being used everywhere. 
The symbol is of a triangle with a circle within it, or on top of it.
This symbol also reminded me of the pyramid with the all Seeing Eye on the American dollar bill, and also of the pyramid of Gaza which does not have its capstone; it is missing the top… strange me thinks!
This symbol can found on James Twyman’s site “Beloved World“, if you remember he is the “Moses Code” guy, and he also has an album called “Order of the Beloved Disciple” found here at Amazon. You can see the picture of some strange looking Mary, almost alien like if you look closely enough, and behind her is the symbol made out or rays of light and clouds etc… can you see it?
Twyman is also right into the “Indigo/Crystal kids and has co-directed a film with Neale Donald Walsch called “Indigo“. (See my previous posts on this subject here, here, here and here)
James Twyman has written a book (a narrative) called “The Secret of the Beloved Disciple” and here you can find the pre-edition of the first chapter. A close look at this chapter shows me that he is speaking about the Catholic Mary as being something like an “Emissary of Light”. The so called beloved disciple is disciple John, and the secret is the relationship between John and Mary after the crucifix. I will quote what Mary/Maria says in this book…
“Listen very close because what I am about to tell you is very important. I have not come for you alone, but for all the world. This is the dawn of the world of compassion and peace. I am the Queen of Peace because I fully embody these qualities, and I can assist your entry into this experience. You could say that I am the Feminine Principle. These qualities are traditionally feminine qualities, and it is into this energy that humanity must now enter. I can help in special ways, but only if you set aside the need to find peace through conflict. Compassion, understanding and tolerance are the paths that lead to me. This is the Door that humanity stands in front of.”
“But what about those who are not Catholic. . .or Christian?” I asked. “Do people need to accept you in this particular role, or any particular religion?”
“I am not reserved for one particular group or religion,” she said. “I am for the whole world, though many will find their own way of relating to me. The form is not important, but the energy is. It is the energy I bring that is important, and anyone can access it. If humanity is able to make this shift into the feminine energy, then peace will begin to sweep over the whole planet. But if you cling to power and domination, then you will miss this incredible opportunity, and you will continue to live in conflict.”
[…]“The reason I am with you like this is because my whole teaching is contained in this form. Find God in the ordinary. Seek the Divine in each other, and within yourself. That’s how the transformation begins. That’s how you’ll remember who you are—the Sacred Self that God perceives.
There’s still so much you need to learn, especially about the one who is coming…the bearer of light.”
“I thought you were the one I was waiting for,” I said to her. “Aren’t you ‘the next teacher’ the Emissaries spoke of?”
“The next teacher is already with you, and you will know what to do when that time comes. I am here to prepare you. I am here to remind you of your promise, and to hold your hand. Don’t worry, it will all make sense very soon.”
Then Mary says that the actual Emissaries are from the “Order of the Beloved Disciple”. Just as a reminder, this book is a narrative, but it does have an abundance of New Age themes that are preparing the world for a Christ Consciousness that many are now speaking about and expecting to happen as we evolve.
The character in the book asks Mary about Jesus and John (the beloved disciple)…
“Are you saying that they’ve been on earth for the last two-thousands years? But how is that possible?”
“You believe that this realm is limited to the physical world you perceive,” she said. “There are many other levels of reality you have yet to perceive, and they are just as real as this one. It is from these deeper levels that the essential work has taken place. It was to this realm that Jesus ascended after his resurrection, and it is there that he has remained, along with John and many others, waiting for the time of the great shift. You can consider them a group of overseers, kind of a board of directors.
“The Emissaries were the physical counterpart of this unique group made up of beings who have achieved mastery on this level of existence, from every religion and spiritual path. There are other levels beyond that place, what you might call the angelic realms. The Emissaries were like an anchor point that served as a physical link between all these etheric planes and the physical world.”
“We’ve always been taught that Jesus ascended into Heaven,” I said to her, “and I would expect St. John to be there as well. It sounds like you’re saying that they’re somewhere in-between, and that they will someday leave that realm and return to earth.”
The masters do not return from these levels physically, unless it’s in a form like the one you’re perceiving right now. I have assumed this body in order to teach you a particular lesson. When the lesson is over the body is gone.
“What returns to the world is what you might call an ‘energetic signature.’ For example, ‘The Christ’ is an experience, not a person. Please understand this because it is of vital importance—Jesus was certainly the Christ, but the Christ is not limited to your idea of who Jesus was. Jesus assumed that frame of reference, or that energetic signature, and therefore became the savior of his age. The teacher you are waiting for, what you call ‘the next teacher’, will assume the same frame of reference as Jesus. It will be the same, and yet it will be different. It will be Jesus, but it will be more.”
Now according to this book — and other New Age teachers — this is how we are to expect Christ’s second coming…
I’m not sure if I understand,” I said. “What about the Second Coming? Does Jesus ever come back to earth, or is it his soul that returns?”
“It is both, and it is neither,” she said. “I’m sorry that it doesn’t makes logical sense, but there’s no way to understand it logically. Jesus, beyond his body and personality, has always been present on the etheric levels waiting to return to earth. This is the predestined time of awakening, the moment when ‘The Christ’ returns to initiate the New World.
Interestingly Oprah is doing a 365 day course in miracles, and in the book “A Course in Miracles” it speaks about the second coming of Christ which is to be understood as something very different to the traditional biblical account according to a study tool of glossary terms provided by Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D. (The link above is one that you can do a word search in the third addition of the book). The glossary states the following about the Second Coming…
Second Coming
the healing of the mind of the Sonship; the collective return to awareness of our reality as the one Son of God, which we had at our creation, the First Coming; precedes the Last Judgment, after which this world of illusion ends.
For a complete glossary on the book “A Course in Miracles” which uses Christian terms throughout its pages but in all reality have completely different meanings to the biblical definitions see, GLOSSARY TERMS (adapted from the Glossary-Index for A Course in Miracles, Fourth Edition) Kenneth Wapnick, Ph.D.
I will just give a few more examples…
Holy Spirit
the Third Person of the Trinity Who is metaphorically described in the Course as God’s Answer to the separation; the Communication Link between God and His separated Sons, bridging the gap between the Mind of Christ and our split mind; the memory of God and His Son we took with us into our dream; the One Who sees our illusions (perception), leading us through them to the truth (knowledge); the Voice for God Who speaks for Him and for our real Self, reminding us of the Identity we forgot; also referred to as Bridge, Comforter, Guide, Mediator, Teacher, and Translator.
idol
symbol of the substitution of the ego for our true Self or God; a false belief that there can be something other than, or more than God, and thus separate from Him, a belief which is then projected onto the special relationship: people, things, or ideas; the anti-Christ.
Jesus
the source of the Course, its first person or ” I” ; the one who first completed his part in the Atonement, enabling him to be in charge of the whole plan; transcending his ego, Jesus has become identified with Christ and can now serve as our model for learning and an ever-present help when we call upon him in our desire to forgive. (Note — not to be exclusively identified with Christ, the Second Person of the Trinity.)
judgment
knowledge: strictly speaking God does not judge, since what He creates is perfect and at one with Him; the Course’s references to God’s Judgment reflect His recognition of His Son as His Son, forever loved and one with Him.
perception:
w-m: condemnation, whereby people are separated into those to be hated and those to be ” loved,” a judgment always based upon the past.
r-m: vision, whereby people are seen either as expressing love or calling for it, a judgment inspired by the Holy Spirit and always based upon the present.
Last (Final) Judgment
knowledge: contrasted with the traditional Christian view of judgment and punishment to reflect God’s loving relationship with all His Sons: His Final Judgment.
true perception: contrasted with the traditional Christian view of judgment and punishment and equated with the end of the Atonement when, following the Second Coming, the final distinction is made between truth and illusion, all guilt is undone, and awareness is restored to us as Christ — the Son of the living God.
last step
this step, belonging to God, occurs when the Atonement is complete and all ego interferences have been removed; when nothing remains to separate us from God, He takes the last step, raising us unto Himself; strictly speaking God does not take steps, and the term actually refers to our experience of returning to our Source Which we never truly left.
crucifixion
a symbol of the ego’s attack on God and therefore on His Son, witnessing to the ” reality” of suffering, sacrifice, victimization, and death which the world seems to manifest; also refers to the killing of Jesus, an extreme example that taught that our true Identity of love can never be destroyed, for death has no power over life.
Son of God
knowledge: the Second Person of the Trinity; the Christ Who is our true Self.
perception: our identity as separated Sons, or the Son of God as ego with a wrong and right mind; the biblical phrase “son of man” is used rarely to denote the Son as separated.
Trinity
the unity of Its Levels is not understandable in this world; consists of 1) God, the Father and Creator, 2) His Son, Christ, our true Self, Which includes our creations, and 3) the Holy Spirit, the Voice for God.
Word of God
God’s ” answer” to the separation; used variously for different aspects of this answer: e.g., forgiveness, peace, Atonement, and the Holy Spirit. (Note — does not refer to Jesus or Christ, as it does in the Bible.)
I know this is a long post, but it is one that points to how there is a redefining of Christian terminology. With the help of Oprah, James Twyman, Neale Donald Walsch and Marriane Williamson et al there is a subtle preparation underway for a new Christ, one that is about to manifest — a Christ Consciousness. A course in Miracles is a book that was originally dictated to channeller Helen Schucman in 1977 by her spirit guide who claimed to be Jesus. And by the sounds of it, this second coming of christ will be the many that the bible speaks about.
Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray.
By the way, I hope to post something at a later date about what Neale Donald Walsch and others say on something called… “Separation theory/theology”. As you have probably noted by reading the glossary that in New Age thought there is a lot of negative views on dualistic - separation theology which is seen as an antiquated Christian philosophy… these include heaven/hell, God/man, evil/good etc.
More later!
Recommended post:
Recommended listening:
- Todd Friel just cracks me up with his mockery…just listen to Oprah’s awww moment when talking to Tolle, another New Ager. Mr Friel says this awwww is the sound of her being hoodwinked… Awwww, NOOooow I understand what it means to be hoodwinked…awww NOOOooow it’s becoming mor clear to me. From Way of the Master.
Listen to a spirit talk
Anakha Coman is one of the teachers from the movie “The Moses Code” she also has a blog with some very interesting pictures.
Some pictures of the flaming heart (the sacred heart of fire) reminded me of these pictures…the heart of Mary/Maria… NOT the Miriam of the bible!
I will have to check out some of her posts, haven’t the time to do that today.
Meanwhile… check out what she says about “The Moses Code” and the “I AM” in this youtube…
When words are not enough!
Is language capable of conveying the truth? Post-modernism rejects that language is capable of conveying truth, it denies absolute truth is in any way knowable. So how are we to understand the scriptures when it says…
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.
Rom 10:17 So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
According to Neale Donald Walsch (One of Oprah’s favourite people) you are to …listen to your experience. Listen to your feelings and listen to your highest thoughts, even if they differ from your teachers or what you read in your books. You have to forget the words. Words are the least reliable purveyor of truth. Hidden in your deepest feelings is the highest form of truth. Keep on deciding what you want to become in your next highest version of yourself. Keep on, keep on! This is God work we’re up to you and I… so keep on!(Go to this link to here is very unusual voice telling you to keep on…KEEP ON!)
Neale Donald Walsch, author of “Conversations with God”, says in words… that we must listen to our experience, feelings and highest thoughts. Hmmm, why should I trust his words over anybody else’s?
I can read his words all over the internet…I can read his weekly message which he signs off with the words… “As above, so below…Hmmm, hasn’t “The Message” bible rewritten the LORD’s pray with the words “As above, so below“?
How close is he to the truth, check out this…
I’ve come here today to tell you the Secret of Life. It is really a Big Secret, because very few people know it. Are you ready to hear it? Here it is:
You’re a triangle.
That’s right. You heard me. I said, You’re a triangle.
We live in a triangle!
The Roman Catholic Church has taught for hundreds of years of the Holy Trinity. This is the Holy Trinity. This is God the Father, God the son, and God the Holy Ghost.
We live in a triangle!
Father, Son, Holy Ghost.
Body, Mind, Spirit.
Thought, Word, and Deed.
Past, Present, and Future.
Here, There, and Everywhere.
Energy, Matter, Anti-Matter.
Knowing, Experiencing, Being.
Everything comes in three’s. Everything IS a Three. And everything is All One.
All That IS is Three-In-One. There IS a Holy Trinity, and this is it.
We are fragmented as human beings, separated from our Selves. All our parts are disjointed. Body, Mind, and Spirit are not being experienced as One.
Now ask yourself this: If we are fragmented as human beings, how can we not be fragmented as human society?
The solution to the problem is simple. We must join ourselves together. What God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.
Unity, oneness, is the answer. Yet how can we experience oneness EX-ternally if we are not experiencing it IN-ternally?
The path of the New Spirituality can take us where we choose to go — both individually and as a collective called Humanity. I hope you will choose to help make that vision come true. @beliefnet.com
(To learn how you can, go to www.TheGroupOf1000.com.)
This particular triangle is seen as an important symbol within this new spirituality, although it is not new at all. I am working on a post about this higher symbol of human evolutionary enlightenment. Sometimes seen as a path toward the sun, a pyramid culminating in the light of the sun. This sun or cirle is evokes the consciousness, the hypothesis of a divine Being interacting with us, and Teilhard’s “Omega Point”. This icon tries to symbolize Evolution, Global Consciousness and Conscious Integration.
Oh and here is Walsch’s take on God…
Tomorrow’s God does not require anyone to believe in God. Tomorrow’s God is without gender, size, shape, color, or any of the characteristics of an individual living being. Tomorrow’s God talks with everyone, all the time Tomorrow’s God is separate from nothing, but is Everywhere Present, the All In All, the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Sum Total of Everything that ever was, is now, and ever shall be. Tomorrow’s God is not a singular Super Being, but the extraordinary process called Life. Tomorrow’s God is ever changing. Tomorrow’s God is needless. Tomorrow’s God does not ask to be served, but is the Servant of all of Life. Tomorrow’s God will be unconditionally loving, non-judgmental, non-condemning, and non-punishing. All things are One Thing. There is only One Thing, and all things are part of the One Thing That Is.
[..]There is no such thing as Right and Wrong. There is only What Works and What Does Not Work, depending upon what is that you seek to be, do, or have. You are not your body. Who you are is limitless and without end. You cannot die and you will never be condemned to eternal damnation. @School of the New Spirituality
Tomorrow’s God does not require anyone to believe in God?
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned.
Tomorrow’s God… is the Sum Total of Everything that ever was? According Walsch, Hitler is in heaven! Walsch does not love good more than bad. Of course he doesn’t, there is no such things as right and wrong!
God is ever changing?
Mal 3:6 “I am the LORD, I change not… Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
He is the Great I AM, the Great Unchangeable!
There is so much more I could write, but I will leave it here for now, this is painstaking research and it is very interconnected. My brain hurts, but then, perhaps I’m not at that higher level of evolutionary enlightenment!
Related posts:
Indigo’s and our next big shift into “Cosmic Humanitariansim”! UPDATED ALERT BIG TIME!!!
This is a “RED FLAG” post!
Over at Carla’s blog “More Books and Things” she has been writing about “The Moses Code” you can find her posts on the subject here, here and here. This is serious stuff. There is a kingdom being built by certain living luminaries such as Marianne Williamson, Michael Beckwith and Eckhart Tolle along with many other names that are becoming more and more intrinsically linked. They along with others who are like minded, are expecting a “Shift in Action” for a new world! One of the main people behind the movie called “The Moses Code” is .
The official website for the film “The Moses Code” says..
It’s time for the next stage! The director of The Secret, Drew Heriot, present…The Moses Code! Executive Producer Drew Heriot and Director James Twyman announce a film that will change the world.
Now that name, James Twyman, rang a bell for me and now I know why. A while ago now I wrote something on the “Indigo Children” and I remember researching a lot about the film called “Indigo“. Neale Donald Walsch and James Twyman collaborated and co-wrote the film about the “Indigo Children”. These children go by different names too, like Crystal, Star kids and Rainbow Children just to name a few. (Note: Oprah has said of Walsch that he is way ahead of the curve, in fact Walsch has been interviewed by Oprah and there are two shows that have not been aired because society is not ready to hear what he has to say yet. One can only fathom as to what these two shows have in store for humanity, especially considering the latest push from Oprah and other living luminaries into a higher from of evolutionary consciousness)
“This inspirational film, Indigo , from producer Stephen Simon ( Somewhere in Time , and What Dreams May Come ) and co-written by James Twyman (author of the bestselling Emissary of Light ) and Neale Donald Walsch, serves as an affirmation of spiritual principles universal to all mankind”. @amazon.com
James Twyman has a site called the “Emissary of Light” and on that site you can find material on the “Indigo’s” and their recent messages for the cosmic whole, here is an example from a child called Nicholas ages 8…
We must learn to open our Hearts in all situations no matter how dishonorable. To do this breathe life into your heart! First, imagine or remember a time when you can feel the love you have felt in receiving unconditional love. Take a deep breath and inhale inspired air into aortic ventricles. Feel the new air come in, hold and remember experience of unconditional love…give it a color. Now exhale and release unwanted energy.
Repeat 5x/day for 20 days and any time you need to experience it. At the end of day 20, you will now be manifesting love more readily through Heart Chakra.
www.friendsofnicholas.com(this message is written word for word through the unedited mind and heart of Nicholas
-Nicholas, age 8
Another message from Michael…
Message from Michael:
We are the children of light. Several names have been given to us such as: Indigo, Children of Oz, the Psychic Children, Rainbows and Mystics. For we are that – and we are you. We are one with creation and so are you. We come here with an open heart. To love and to forgive, and be compassion. Open up to your hearts frequency, and remember who you are. The children come here to enlighten the people of the dimensional shift of energy which is occurring.
Check out the image associated with James Twyman’s site… it has the pryamid with the a circle in the middle!! 
There is also another site of his called “Beloved World” which talks about the peace ministers and the emissary wheel
Also there is this symbol of the I AM which can be found here.
Now, more on Neale Donald Walsch…
What Neale Donald Walsch has actually said about the “Indigo’s” is something so spectacular and when I heard him say this I nearly fell off of my chair with disbelief. He said that these indigo children have existed during many times on our earth– they have gone by many different names in the past– they are sent to repersonalize our planet. This term repersonalization is not to be confused with reincarnation, these children (some of which are adults now) have a higher astral self and a lower rebellious self and they were all included in Lucifer’s fall. I hope you just read me right, (and perhaps you need to read it again!!!) they are acknowledging that these kids are a product of the great rebellion of Satan. Repersonalization means that you have been sent from another universe to another planet to bring us all back into harmony. They are called the first light souls. I had this on a youtube, unfortunately the youtube no longer exists, but I did keep the above information on what was said. Just quickly… speaking about the youtube that is not available any more makes me wonder if Walsch had said a little too much for our unenlightened minds to fathom. Is this one of the statements that are yet to be put out in a more public arena such as the Oprah Show? Who knows? I do know what I heard, and I am so glad that I documented what was said!
Now for another youtube and you will notice Neale Donald Walsch, James Tywman and Gary Zukav another of Oprah’s favourites speak about our next evolutionary step… Remember the great event is not the “Indigo Children”, but the birth of an “Indigo World”… Blessed be the peacemakers as they will become the children of God. Watch the video, then you will understand the big shift into “Cosmic Humanitarianism”.
By the way, I can hear it now… the following bible verses could be taken all out of all context, just you wait and see.
Mat 18:3 and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Act 2:17 And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour forth of My Spirit upon all flesh: And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, And your young men shall see visions, And your old men shall dream dreams:
Update ALERT:
After searching more about “Indigo’s” on youtube and websites, I came across the term Kryon, from what I can gather this Kryon is channelled by Lee Carroll and Kryon is a so called “Angelic Being” and has had messages that have been delivered to the UN. Lee Carroll runs SEAT (Society for Enlightenment and Transformation) which is part …of the United Nations Staff Recreational Council (UNSRC). This is a group of clubs that is sanctioned by the UN for members, guests, employees and delegates of the United Nations. On March 31, 2006 Lee Carroll was again invited to bring Kryon’s message to this group. Having been there before in 1995, 96, and 98, and 2005, this 11-year anniversary of Kryon’s first visit was presented in the Dag Hammarskjold Library Auditorium in the UN building in Manhattan. Again Dr. Todd Ovokaitys was Lee’s guest speaker.
Here is where you can find what Kryon said at the 2006 meeting at the UN.
Kryon says that heaps of tax money is going to Africa for Aids and there are many other workers who are investing this money into Africa (Rick Warren is brought to my mind here). Kryon speaks about the illuminati which he/she says does exist, and that they are working on emerging Governments and “Lighthouses” and Kryon speaks about the 2012 Mayan Calender…
Lastly, we will tell you again about 2012. If you will look at the real Mayan and Aztec calendars, you will see what they really had to say. What they foretell are patterns of energy potential that are all part of the time clock of Gaia. They’re not calendars at all, as you think of them, but rather energy markers.
2012 represents a renaissance in thought, where light will come onto the planet. This new energy will not support war or the potentials of war. The time that will shift and change is “the old time.” Some of you have seen this and you have been in your metaphysical belief long enough to see the changes and the shifts beginning to occur. You know what I’m speaking of.
Remember, 2008 is a pivotal year. We told you that in the year 2000. There are potentials in that year that, if they should manifest, will change much, including what happens in this building.
Are you willing to smile? Are you willing to stand up and strike the light and say, “I don’t care what it looks like. I’m not afraid of the storm. I care what it’s going to be when I’m done.” And that, dear Human Being, is why we love you the way we do.
This has been a message from the angelic realm. It’s practical and real. We celebrate you, and the entourage in here celebrates you.
And so it is.
By the way, the logo for SEAT is the Alpha and Omega sign… Remember you are the light of the world so that they may embrace God is Kryon’s message, to find that go to Kryon’s website the flash version, you will be greeted with this message and a “Lighthouse” for guidance. 
Here is the 2007 message given at the UN from Kryon. One more thing to note, Kryon mentions a that a Big Shift is upon us and will continue to happen until 2012.
Seeker Friendly -The Ooops Factor - and the Headless Bride.
A bit of a mishmash post for you today…
Seems that the seeker friendly program is being questioned by its own leaders. Why? Because those who have been ministered to in this seeker friendly way are not growing up or maturing. Bill Hybels from Willow Creek says…
Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into thinking it would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the data actually came back it wasn’t helping people that much. Other things that we didn’t put that much money into and didn’t put much staff against is stuff our people are crying out for.
And he goes on to say…
We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed the line of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people and teaching people that they have to take responsibility to become ‘self feeders.’ We should have gotten people, taught people, how to read their bible between services, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively on their own.
But have they really learnt from their mistake? Consider the following statement from Greg Hawkins from Willow Creek…
Our dream is that we fundamentally change the way we do church. That we take out a clean sheet of paper and we rethink all of our old assumptions. Replace it with new insights. Insights that are informed by research and rooted in Scripture. Our dream is really to discover what God is doing and how he’s asking us to transform this planet.
As Bob Burney points out…
Isn’t that what we were told when this whole seeker-sensitive thing started? The church growth gurus again want to throw away their old assumptions and “take out a clean sheet of paper” and, presumably, come up with a new paradigm for ministry. Please note that “rooted in Scripture” still follows “rethink,” “new insights” and “informed research.” Someone still doesn’t get it. Unless there is a return to simple biblical (and relevant) principles, a new faulty scheme will replace the existing one and another generation will follow along as the latest piper plays.
Well, I guess we will wait and see what the new insights will be, and if they are biblical or not.But just before I go. I quickly read some of the comments to the above article and one commenter replied by saying…
Has anyone ever said, “hey let’s see what the Bible says about growth and the gatherings?” And God added to them those who would be saved! You see the church back then were all in agreement and connected to Christ as the head,
And this got me thinking about something I read just yesterday from the ‘Extreme Prophetic’ website where a prophecy was given for this year and it talks about the headless bride (yeah, you read me right, the headless bride)…
This is the year for the Ecclesia – the true shining headless bride of Christ to come into alignment with His headship and authority.
Seriously, I really have a vivid imagination and when I read that, I immediately thought of the ‘Bride of Frankenstein‘. It scared me to even consider that the Bride of Christ has gone around headless for the last 2000 years.Perhaps they are not so far from the truth when you consider that these New Apostolic Reformers are speaking about encounters with the Watchers (Angels) and these encounters help to open up portals or gateways into the heavenlies and that these Watcher’s are wanting to ‘partner’ with them (the link I provided goes to a video). It is Ryan Wyatt from ‘Extreme Prophetic’ website talking about the watchers, the heavenlies and portals and other supernatural things…Errr, does this partnering sound a little too much like the Days of Noah to you! If you don’t know much about the Watchers the Book of Enoch writes extensively about them, it is an outside-biblical book. I have researched a little about the Watchers before here and here.I mean, perhaps their bride really doesn’t have a head yet, or perhaps this bride has been cut off by the Sword of Truth and is left floundering around in the dark because they are pretty much waiting for the watchers to partner with them and open the portal of heavenly light.Look I could go on, but for now I will leave it. All of this stuff, the seeker friendly and the obscure mystic New-Age Occultic move of a wannabe try hard god personally effects me, big time.
Go to the Bible, you Can Not be serious!
I don’t normally refer to mp3 sound-bites, but I have found some worth listening to. It’s a break down on Doug Pagitt and his chat with a lady about the Oh-so conservative and outta-touch kinda guy John MacArthur. Doug Pagitt who is the man of the moment for the ‘PoMo-Emer‘ crowd shared his thoughts about MacArthur’s old-fangled, old-fashioned, out-of-date, outmoded and outworn views on Christians practising yoga with a woman after the interview. Pagitt has also been known to call John MacArthur’s view on the gospel ‘Perverted‘ and he doesn’t use that term lightly by any means.
I guess the bible is old-fangled, old-fashioned, out-of-date, outmoded and well as being outworn. I seem to remember someone saying that the bible is the dusty old love letters to the Church. In fact, yes, I still have the book that says this. (Tommy Tenney)
I won’t elaborate further on the mouldy old pages of the bible, with its increasingly irrelevant old truth being hacked up today. Today’s movement of cutting edge connoisseurs - taste test this, taste test that religion - are pursuing ecumenical unity while completely disregarding - and even denying - that any absolute truth actually exists. They are absolutely sure that absolute surety cannot be absolutely known for sure - because it doesn’t really exist… does it?
I ask them … are you really sure about that???
But before I give you the link to the sound-bites I will post the actual video of the interview in question.
First here is Pagitt’s take on the interview and his conversation with the woman.
Then the following mp3 comes from ‘Way of the Master Radio’ and it is Todd Friel take about the above conversation. Here is the recording about the above conversation and I find it very telling in how the bible is becoming more and more irrelevant for our 21st century post-modern and multi-cultural so called harmonious society.
I will just leave you with this…
Our worldview will determine how we process information and in turn what we believe. In theory, at least, Christians should possess a biblical worldview shaped by the study of Scripture. In actuality, too often our philosophy of living (worldview) is formed by other forces around us including our culture. Dr Gary E Gilley
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