God foreknew and ALSO predestined…

Just reflecting on a few verses after listening to THIS [62 minutes of very interesting stuff].   Saffron planet tackle head-on the big topic of predestination vs free will. Ordinary people with very real concerns discuss the issues debated endlessly by the Calvinists and Arminianists. Does God just have foreknowledge of who’s going to heaven or is it all carved in stone? How do these issues affect our evangelism? Once saved always saved or lose it if you abuse it? Turn on your brains and join us in this lively chat.

Rom 8:28  And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Rom 8:29  For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.

Eph 1:3  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
Eph 1:4  even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Eph 1:5  he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
Eph 1:6  to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.

Questions that have been brought up:

1. In regards to predestination does this limit God’s love of all people in the world. In other words does He love only those He has predestined?
2. Is God’s death from some and not for all?
3. Can we come up with a balance of God’s sovereignty, God’s love and mercy and God’s foreknowledge… how can we balance that? How do those three strands unite and balance?
4. Thinking of the Old Testament where God chose Jacob and hated Esau is that salvific predestination or is that choosing servants for God’s earthly purpose?
5. If people don’t have that blessed assurance of salvation is it because they do not understand if the concept of ‘once saved always saved’ and this is why they are being rocked when it comes to difficult doctrines? If they really know that they ARE a child of God then they would be open to all sorts of stimulus and doctrinal debate without having their faith rocked. So, is ‘once saved always saved’ a doctrinal certainty?
6. If peoples faith is rocked when debating doctrinal arguments, does this mean that their relationship with God is clothed in uncertainty. If so, does this mean that they may not be saved in the first place?
7. If we are rocked then perhaps we need to look at our foundations? Hebrews 6 speaks about certain fundamentals that need to be in place:

Heb 6:1  Therefore, leaving behind the elementary teachings about Christ, let us continue to be carried along to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, faith toward God,
Heb 6:2  instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.

8. If we have a desire in our heart to know God is that God’s predestined grace upon us?
9. How can someone be a child of God and then turn away? Can we judge a child of God by what they once said and did, or by their perseverance of their faith?

 

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New blog to blogroll – Thanks Carla for the find!

[Hat-tip: Carla, once again from More Books and Things] You go girl!!!

About “Finding Truth in Jesus”

In 2006, I began to realize the church I was attending was quickly transitioning into an emergent church. I suppose that for awhile I ignored the signs, and hoped it wouldn’t get any worse.

The influence continued, and the final “straw that broke the camel’s back” was when the minister started teaching a series on contemplative prayer; which is simply transcendental meditation couched in Christian sounding terminology, but there’s nothing Christian about it.

I went to the minister to express my concern over this teaching, and gave him a copy of A Time Of Departing by Ray Yungen. To make a painfully long story short, I realized it was time to leave this congregation.

During the transition of leaving, I had opportunity to talk with several people about “spiritual formation”, the “emergent church”, and “contemplative prayer”, but I was frustrated with the number of websites I would refer people to for more information on these subjects.

I had wished I had one simple web address to refer people to, where they could get ample information, but also be directed to the vast wealth of data located on other websites. That desire led to the creation of this website.

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What’s wrong with this statement?

So this is what it is all about: Trust Him with your life. Forget the legalism; let His Spirit guide you!… And THIS is what we need to teach your children: connect to the spirit as early as possible! Using the bible to separate right from wrong only leads to legalism; let Him guide you!

Can you see a flaw in this statement?

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Is world uniting in Copenhagen?

You may remember I posted a youtube at the end of October that had Lord Christopher Monckton give a presentation in St. Paul, MN on the subject of global warming. In this 4-minute excerpt from his speech, he issues a dire warning to all Americans regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty that is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009. That post also contained many links with a whole heap of information about the United Nations Climate Change Treaty. [It’s probably best if you go back to that post and watch the video to recap on this issue before reading the latest news regarding this particular treaty.]

Well, anyhooo… this has led to a petition against the Copenhagen treaty, you can read all about it HERE.

According to the Minnesota Free Market Institute, the video, as originally posted, has collected 2.2 million views and almost 700 pages of comments, but there also are more than 100 other cloned versions of Monckton’s comments on YouTube and the aggregate views exceed 3.5 million.

The video helped launch a national petition drive opposing the Copenhagen treaty at NoCapAndTrade.com, with its more than 135,000 messages to Congress opposing the plan. It’s been discussed by Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham and Michelle Malkin, among others.

Now there are indications the light of information being spread about the potential problems is casting shadows on the proposal.

"The more people learn about the supposed issue of ‘climate change’ and how green extremists intend to control our lives, the more skeptical they become," said Jeff Davis, president of the Minnesota Majority. Is world uniting in Copenhagen?

Interesting huh???

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More Books and Things…: Cycle Theory Series – The Convergence

This morning I posted something about 2012 and a video from an Astrobiologist who answers the questions regarding 2012 and the end of the world through catastrophic change. If you didn’t see that post you can find it HERE.

Anyway, Carla [hat-tip: More Books and Things] has found three very important articles that speak about “Cycle Theory”. You can find her post here: More Books and Things…: Cycle Theory Series – The Convergence.

But just to blurb about it…

The hype surrounding 2012 provides a backdrop to explain what is happening on a “spiritual level” in conjunction with the ancient civilizations as well as keep an apocalyptic fear of dis-aster at the forefront of our thoughts. It is imperative that we maintain situational awareness in our personal lives—that we not accept a spirit of fear, allow the deception to creep into our thoughts, and become part of the “community.”

Biblically speaking, what makes this convergence of cycles so different from those observed in history? Israel is in the land—in unbelief as foretold by the prophets. We are operating on God’s time clock now. Truth is that point where word and deed meet. What lays on our horizon is that point where God’s Word and His deeds become one and prophecy is fulfilled. All indications point to a time of unprecedented upheaval to life as we know it. But then again, we’ve read the Book and we know the ending. [The Convergence of 2012 Part 3]

If you want to know how Mary Miller came to the above observation about ‘Cycle Theory’ read:

• The Convergence of 2012 Part 1
• The Convergence of 2012 Part 2
• The Convergence of 2012 Part 3

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The Children Are the Key

I found this article via facebook which I thought was pretty good. It’s about teaching children biblical truth…

It is in the minds and hearts of our children that the battle will be fought.

[…]Something shocking came to light: that—of those who left the church—if they attended Sunday school regularly as kids, they were actually worse off! That is, they were more likely to become anti-church, more inclined to defend abortion and “gay” marriage, and more likely to believe in evolutionism and millions of years than those who didn’t go to Sunday school regularly!

One of the main reasons is that most Sunday school curricula only teaches disconnected Bible stories. They don’t teach how we know the Bible is true, how to defend the faith, and how to answer the sceptical questions of today. The Children Are the Key – Answers in Genesis

The article considers some important points about the importance of teaching children biblical truth from a young age. But what I found even more interesting is that there were comments from a broad range of people on facebook.

One commenter says…

So this is what it is all about: Trust Him with your life. Forget the legalism; let His Spirit guide you!…
And THIS is what we need to teach your children: connect to the spirit as early as possible! Using the bible to separate right from wrong only leads to legalism; let Him guide you!

Can you see a flaw in this statement?

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Demonology – what does the bible say?

An interesting article about demons and satan…

Demons have always opposed God, His purposes, and His people. In the Old Testament days, demons brought attacks against God’s nation, Israel. Demons also oppose the Church, Christ’s body.

They promote false doctrine and divisions, they produce false teachers and followers, and they incite persecution. No other religion of the world receives such opposition and deadly persecution. Satan and demons hate the Messiah—the Creator who became the Savior—and anyone who follows Him.

Satan and demons have not faded from the scene. They continue their evil activity. Their activity is more blatant in some places than others, but their presence is still experienced worldwide. The Bible warns that their activity will reach new heights in the future. The pinnacle of satanic activity will be embodied in Antichrist and his program (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

Read the rest at – Demons on a Leash – Answers in Genesis

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Stop Hypocrisy at the United Nations

I have been getting quite a few emails in regards to the corrupt U.N. Security Council lately…

The United Nations Human Rights Council spends a great deal of its time condemning Israel while ignoring real human rights abuses. Recently, the Council approved a resolution endorsing the one-sided, biased report of Judge Richard Goldstone and accusing Israel of “War Crimes.” This resolution will now be considered by the U.N. Security Council. Please sign the petition at the end of this short video that will be sent to President Obama and the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council urging them to veto this biased resolution.

http://www.honestreporting.com/a/UNHypocrisy.asp

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Saffronplanet.net

I found this site via Moriel…

Saffron Planet is a simple concept. It is just a group of ordinary folk, four Christian families and their friends, who wish to know more about God, His word and His dealings with the world. They meet up on Sunday afternoons and chat around a dining table on a variety of topics. These chats are edited and broadcast as podcasts on www.SaffronPlanet.net for all who wish to share in our journey.

Saffron Planet are the Maltz, Werth, Jeffery and Hill families, spanning two generations and fifty years. Within these families are teachers, authors, broadcasters, musicians, media professionals, housewives and schoolkids, representing a wide range of experiences and aspirations but united in their desire to see true Biblical Christianity taught and practiced in our nation. Who are we? | Saffronplanet.net

It looks like an interesting site.

Note:

Please remember to use discernment with all sites.

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The Fourth Kind

Author Gary Bates went a saw a movie called “The Fourth Kind” which is a documentary/drama about alien abduction. He has been one of few Christians that has extensively researched this topic. He has written a review about this movie which is worth a read as it clearly explains that there is something spiritual happening to people which he does not deny.

But are these encounters aliens from another world or are they something far more sinister?

The portrayal of the scarred Tyler is harrowing, though. Although this may be a fictional account, the reality of such seriously damaged people is only too evident to those involved in abduction research. It is the real evidence of altered and broken lives that is only too recognizable as the fruit of the evil one using such deceptive and destructive practices to spite His Creator and turn the very subjects that God loves away from Him. Sadly, this fact is lost on secular researchers. Amazingly, the last scene with Tyler is extremely revealing. Her interviewer asks, “You said they claim to be God” (one entity was recorded saying these words in the movie). Tyler responds and says, “No, they

A grand illusion

People are not being abducted by aliens.
Nor have advanced extraterrestrial races evolved on other planets.
Nor has God created such races of extraterrestrials. However, many people are having real experiences at the hands of deceptive fallen angels and demons. These entities are creating an elaborate charade that undergirds (and is undergirded by) the theory of evolution which also undermines God’s rightful place as King of the universe. The experience can be real, but the charade is not. As some well-known Christian commentators also noted:

“… how credible is it to think that literally thousands of extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light-years simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support the occult. . . . Why would they consistently lie about things which we know are true, and why would they purposefully deceive their contacts?”

One thing he writes and something that I totally agree with, is that the Church should have answers for these people who have been so traumatised by their experiences with these deceptive beings.

He writes…

This area of spiritual warfare should be “bread and butter” for the church. It grieves me that many leaders do not know how to reach, and are not even willing to try and understand what is happening to, these people. A loving church that could embrace and explain this phenomenon will have people turning up at its door for answers. Unfortunately, most experiencers that I have met have felt shunned by the church. Instead, they seek the assistance of those in the UFO community who, sadly, will only reinforce the lie that they are being visited by highly evolved benevolent beings from another planet.

A must read article called The Fourth Kind!

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Five very important matters of faith…

The Five Basic Doctrines:

1. The Trinity: God is one "What" and three "Whos" with each "Who" possessing all the attributes of Deity and personality.
2. The Person of Jesus Christ: Jesus is 100% God and 100% man for all eternity.
3. The Second Coming: Jesus Christ is coming bodily to earth to rule and judge.
4. Salvation: It is by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.
5. The Scripture: It is entirely inerrant and sufficient for all Christian life.

The major religions of the world all deny all of these major doctrines. Sadly, there are those within Christendom that are denying these fundamental truths.

To find out why these five things are extremely important read this PDF file written by Sandy Simpson.

Anyway, here is a poll for you to do…

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The Bride is being abused…

A must read article by Jackie Alnor. It’s about the violence that is happening to the bride of Christ today. She does an amazing job in relating current violence of the world to the Kingdom Violence that is happening within the Church.

 

Spiritual Child Abuse

If the apostle Paul turned the world upside-down and the new apostles turn it the other way around, isn’t that an undoing of the work of the true apostles? Also, notice Joyner’s emphasis on worship. Have you ever seen a worship service at his church, MorningStar? It’s very tribal – even demonic. Here are some clips of this “worship” Joyner is referring to: [not for the squeamish.]

Worship I

Worship II 

A woman wrote a testimony on Joyner’s forum testifying to what she and her family experienced while streaming Joyner’s Heritage program. She wrote:

“A couple weeks ago I was web streaming the meeting and my kids were up stairs getting ready for bed, when all of a sudden my 17 yr. old son came down stairs and said to me, "Look at me , mom!" I looked at him and said, "What?" Then he repeated himself, saying, "LOOK at me!" I looked at him again, and said, "What is it?" He said, "I’m covered with gold dust!" His whole torso was covered with gold dust! He asked what was going on, I told him I was web streaming Heritage!! Then the Lord opened an opportunity for my husband and I to come to Heritage last weekend. 4 days after we came home, I was web streaming again and saw an open eye vision of the fire. We know fire as a thing, but this fire of the Lord is Alive!! It was about 3 feet wide and had EYES!!! The eyes were blinking!!! It is ALIVE!!!”

[…] Most of the so-called prophets that interface with the former Kansas City prophets are highlighted on the networking PR group known as the “Elijah List,” headed up by media person Steve Shultz. On a recent news release Shultz was promoting a new cd by false prophet Kim Clement. Shultz’s September 8, 2009 promo started with this headline in big red letters: “

"THE VIOLENT TAKE THE KINGDOM—BY FORCE!–Just listen to some of Kim Clement’s Prophetic music to ‘hear’ Kingdom Violence"

He went on to say:

“Kim Clement is a VIOLENT worshipper. It’s odd. There have been times when I’ve felt so over-stimulated with life and the problems of the day, that I needed to just find a quiet place and BE QUIET myself. Yet strangely enough, in the past few years, it’s been during just such times, that I was able to bear the "Spiritual Violence" coming through Prophet and Minstrel, Kim Clement–at just those same times… it’s all VIOLENT in a VERY VERY GOOD way. Kingdom_violence

To anyone who has any background in the Occult or eastern religion the term open eye vision is clearly the opening of the third eye! The third eye is responsible for esoteric visions.

And please remember that not all fire is from God. There is such a thing called “Strange Fire”. 

The strange fire

There is in Leviticus the account of strange fire; they were burning the fire to Jehovah but in an alien way, not according to scripture:

Lev 10:1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took each of them his censer, and put fire therein, and laid incense thereon, and offered strange fire before Jehovah, which he had not commanded them.

The term for unbiblical worship and the term for idolatry is the same term. Once you begin to worship the true God in an unbiblical way you will end up in idolatry. It is the path that gets you there; it’s inevitable. The Catholic Church is an example, they progressed into idolatry. They didn’t start with necromancy and icons they progressed into it. If you worship the one true God in an unbiblical way; that path leads you into idolatry.

Another example is the Hebrew word for husband, master and owner which is ‘Bal’. Jehovah was Israel’s Bal. The Canaanites had their Bal. They had their god with the same name. If you begin to worship the true god in an unbiblical way another god gives a counterfeit.

Related Articles:

• Strange Fire
• The Right Manner of Worship and Drawing Nigh Unto God

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A treaty is about to be signed to create a New World Order in December — via climate control!

A treaty is about to be signed to create a New World Order in December

Just found this on facebook thanks to Pastor Corby Stephens. We are at a the last hour of freedom before the world enters into a New World Order. This New World Order has to come about for the anti-christ to rise! It has been prophesied in the book of Daniel and Revelation.

Here is the video which is a must see. And I have just copied and pasted some more information that was found at the youtube site for you to go through.

So watch and take in what is being said here…

On October 14, Lord Christopher Monckton gave a presentation in St. Paul, MN on the subject of global warming. In this 4-minute excerpt from his speech, he issues a dire warning to all Americans regarding the United Nations Climate Change Treaty that is scheduled to be signed in Copenhagen in December 2009.

A draft of the treaty can be read here:

http://www.globalclimatescam.com/docu…

Chuck Norris has an article in WorldNetDaily with a good analysis of the treaty:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE….

There has been considerable debate raised about Monckton’s conclusion that the Copenhagen Treaty would cede US sovereignty. His comments appear to be based upon his interpretation of the The Supremacy Clause in the US Constitution (Article VI, paragraph 2). This clause establishes the Constitution, Federal Statutes, and U.S. TREATIES as the supreme law of the land. Concerns have been raised in the past that a particularly ambitious treaty may supersede the US Constitution. In the 1950s, a constitutional amendment, known as the Bricker Amendment, was proposed in response to such fears, but it failed to pass. You can read more about the Bricker Amendment in a 1953 Time Magazine article:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/art…,9171,806676-1,00.html

Lord Monckton served as a policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher. He has repeatedly challenged Al Gore to a debate to which Gore has refused. Monckton sued to stop Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth” from being shown in British schools due to its inaccuracies. The judge found in-favor of Monckton, ordering 9 serious errors in the film to be corrected. Lord Monckton travels internationally in an attempt to educate the public about the myth of global warming.

UPDATE:

Check-out this story from the 10/29/09 Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001…

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Aliens are spiritual in nature…

My last post was about the possibility of Alien Disclosure from President Obama. Now, I prefaced that post with a caution to be discerning which I hope you will do.

Listening further to the interview between Art Bell and Dr. Stephen Greer, Greer spoke about what you should do if you come across a close encounter of the third kind. He said that you should not panic, meditate and centre yourself into a non-locality consciousness and what he means by that is that you can learn how to centre your consciousness into a universal constant. I bet that sounds familiar to those of you who have been researching the emerging church movement??? He goes on to say that you must to this to invite them to come over and open up a spirit of dialogue!

You can listen to that interview HERE. He goes on to say that if you are skilled in this you can remote view the occupants of the UFO.

So… yep, this is a spiritual thing. He then goes on to say that you can purchase materials on his website that will help you learn how to get into this deep meditative state so that you can invite these Aliens in and have what  he calls an CE5 encounter; a close encounter of the fifth kind.

"HIDDEN TRUTH" BOOK and CD

The amazing autobiography of Steven M. Greer, MD – "Hidden Truth – Forbidden Knowledge". In one of the most astounding and moving true stories ever told, Dr. Greer relates his own personal experiences with Extraterrestrial peoples and the unfolding of cosmic awareness since his childhood. From his sighting of a UFO at an early age, to his amazing near-death experience at age 17, to his unraveling of the secret cabal running the illegal transnational energy and UFO-related projects, to his meetings with a CIA Director, US Senators, heads of state and royalty – you will be moved, shocked and enlightened as you read through this memoir. Read more.
Order the book and CD separately. The CD includes the following Guided Meditations from the book:

• Structure of the Universe – 31 minutes
• Contacting ET Beings and a Meditation and Prayer for Earth

The Disclosure Project – Shopping

He also has a CD set called Cosmic Consciousness – A course in advance mantra meditation. Just check out “The Disclosure Project – Shopping” link above.

Now… with all the centering prayer and meditation that is going on in the Church and with the UFOlogists doing the same thing and trying to connect with a something that is inter-dimensional, does this not concern you??? Think about how the whole environmental crusaders would be willing to listen to possible answers that help this planet clean up. Are we being primed to accept something that is super-spiritual in nature? Has the bible spoke about this? I believe the bible has. And what is says is that there will be a strong delusion sent by God Himself…

2Th 2:9  The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10  and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11  Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,

Why is this sent?

Because they don’t love the truth that would save them!

What is that truth?

Love of the truth — not merely love of truth, but love of THE truth (and of, Jesus who is the Truth, in opposition to Satan’s “lie,” 2Th 2:9, 2Th 2:11; Joh 8:42-44), can save (Eph 4:21). We are required not merely to assent to, but to love the truth (Psa 119:97).

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In The Days: Current news events in the light of biblical prophecy » Official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is imminent

Ok…I said I was going to have a break, but I did happen across a post on one of my favourite blogs “More Books and Things” that needed to be brought to light. Please use discernment in regards to this topic. Remember that we should have our eyes fixed only on Jesus and His Word.

I have blogged about Aliens and the possibility of disclosure this year HERE. And you can find my other posts regarding this fascinating topic HERE. From these posts you will learn that there is a massive push for governments and other NGOs to disclose what they know about “Aliens” and “Advanced Technology”!

The following quote is from a Christian site that looks at current political events in light of biblical prophecy and I guess we will just have to wait and see if anything at all comes from this…

Obama’s September 24, 2009 chairing of the UN Security Council meeting on nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament, signaled his emerging leadership role in tackling major global issues such as nuclear weapons. The Nobel Peace Prize was an important step in giving global legitimacy to President Obama in making an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. Obama is therefore poised to play a prominent role in the increased global governance that will be necessary after an extraterrestrial disclosure announcement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway.

There have been various sources that have revealed deliberations are underway to make an announcement concerning the existence of extraterrestrial life by the end of 2009. These include, Dr Pete Peterson, a whistleblower who has recently emerged revealing high level discussions have taken place concerning announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life. In a Project Camelot interview, Dr Peterson revealed that “Obama is planning to disclose the reality of ET contact by the end of the year; and that most, but not all, of the ET visitors are friendly.”
Another source is David Wilcock, a prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms. Wilcock has been told by additional independent sources that extraterrestrial disclosure will take place by the end of 2009. He furthermore claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio interview that “a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an alien species, similar to humans, to the world.”

In addition, popular NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland, has publicly come forward to reveal that the October 9, LCROSS ‘bombing’ mission of the moon, discovered an ancient base at the moon’s South Pole.

In The Days: Current news events in the light of biblical prophecy » Official disclosure of extraterrestrial life is imminent

Interestingly, the whole energy crisis is part and parcel of this whole disclosure plan. Meetings are taking place concerning the continuation of burning fossil fuels and how this is destroying our earth. In these meetings they speak about extra-terrestrial technologies that would put a stop to all of that. Dr. Stephen Greer has started a website called orionproject.org and this website seeks to bring scientists together to talk about environmental and social crisis concerns…

The Orion Project is an organization created to transform the current energy, environmental and social crisis into a world of sustainability and Enlightened Abundance.

Technological progress in the areas of advanced physics and electromagnetic systems, if appropriately supported, will enable humanity to live on the Earth with a minimal footprint with genuine long-term sustainability.

For over 100 years, these advanced concepts in energy generation have either been ignored or actively suppressed due to the power of fossil-fuel based economic and industrial interests. [source]

Listen to this youtube where Dr Stephen Greer speaks about the possible coming disclosure and the economic reasoning why it has happened yet. He also speaks about the current global energy crisis and how advanced technology from these “aliens” may just help save the world from itself.

For more youtube on this see HERE.

Advanced technology from unusual sources has happened before. In the days of Noah the sons of God visited and pro-created with the daughters of man. They produced the Nephilim.

Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Notice that it says that the Nephilim were on the earth during the days of Noah and also after that.

These Nephilim/Watchers according to the book of Enoch also gave rise to great technical advancement on the earth before the great flood. This time was of a “Great Awakening” for humanity.

Another Christian author has come to the same conclusion that these ‘Aliens’ are demonic forces, the same forces found in Genesis 6…

UFOs are real, they’re just not from outer space. So says Chuck Missler in his informative book, Alien Encounters: The Secret Behind the UFO Phenomenon. Missler is convinced that the alleged aliens publicized these days are demonic forces, and equates them convincingly with the angels that co-habited with women in Genesis 6. Stay with me for these few paragraphs and see if your curiosity isn’t piqued just a bit. Granted, there are many details we don’t know about the pre-flood days, but in my opinion, Missler’s hypothesis fills in a lot of gaps (Matt. 24:37). Read more at – A Deception of Cosmic Proportions

Anyway, much more could be said about these ‘Watchers’ also known as the ‘Nephilim’ and to the secular world they are known as ‘Aliens’. In fact, they go by many different names depending of the culture. Just googling “Ancient Astronauts” “Star gods” “Anunnaki” will bring up a wealth of information about these ancient visitors. In fact, almost every ancient culture shares the same kind of story about “Star gods” coming down and creating mankind! This is called “Panspermia”.

The book of Genesis says that we are created in the image of God – a monotheistic God! But it does go on to talk about the sons of God coming down and copulating with the daughters of men!

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Who should we bow down to – God or Jesus, or are they one…

Isa 45:22  Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.
Isa 45:23  I have sworn by Myself, the Word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Php 2:9  Because of this also God highly exalted Him and gave Him a name above every name,
Php 2:10  that at the name of Jesus "every knee should bow," of heavenly ones, and earthly ones, and ones under the earth,
Php 2:11  and "every tongue should confess" that Jesus Christ is "Lord," to the glory of God the Father. Isa. 45:23

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The movie they don’t want you to see!!!

Thanks Carla from More Books and Things for pointing this out!!!

Not Evil Just Wrong is the film Al Gore and Hollywood are working hard to make sure you can’t and don’t see.Too late. On Sunday, Oct. 18, more than 400,000 Americans helped make the launch of Not Evil Just Wrong the largest simultaneous film premiere party in U.S. history, airing on more than 7,000 screens in all 50 states.

more about “The movie they don’t want you to see!!!“, posted with vodpod

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Documentary an inconvenient truth for Gore fans

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Word – Logos…

This is good. It is a study about The Deity of Christ by David Hocking. I found it at Blue Letter Bible Institute Library, which has very good teachings on a number of biblical themes.

I am currently studying the Word and who that Word actually is. During my research I have found this pdf file to be most useful and clearly biblical. You may want to check it out too…

 

The Deity of Christ – Session 5 Christology – David Hocking 12

First of all, John 1:1 says, “In the beginning was the Word.” Now the word for “word” is logos in Greek. Now logos is a common English word referring to the study of something. Archaeology has logos in the end. Christology, has logos in the end—the study of Christ. So that little logos or “-ology” on the end of English words, is referring to the study of something. In ancient times the logos was a revelation. That is, a display, a putting on display, expressing it so that we can see it. That is very interesting because when John wrote, he certainly wrote with the cultural background of those words that he used.

When he said, “In the beginning was the logos.” They would not immediately think of Jesus because they would be thinking of God. “In the beginning was when God started revealing.” That is the way Barashesh, or Genesis, begins. “In the beginning God created.” And that was a revelation of the glory of God.

Psalm 19:1 says, “The heavens declare or reveal the glory of God.”

So when you read in the beginning was the Word, was the revelation, everyone would go, “Oh yes, yes. You mean the creation. That revealed the nature and power of God.” But now here is what else it says: “And the logos was with God.” Now at that point, you would have to stop and think about what was just said. Actually it is the word pros in Greek—the word meaning “toward.” It can tend to mean “face to face.” What we have here is a statement of equality. Now the person hearing this would have heard, “In the beginning was the revelation of God.” Then they would have heard the next statement, “And this revelation was facing God.” It was in equality with God. Now, that would be impossible for the Jewish mind to apprehend and comprehend, because the created is never to be identified with the Creator. If the first phrase refers to the revelation of the universe, which reveals who God is (which it certainly could), then the second statement therefore, could not make any sense because you cannot have the revelation of that universe on an equal basis with the one who created it. In fact, that is the root of all idolatry. In Romans 1 it says that man worships the creature rather than the Creator. Let me put it another way. God is never to be identified with that which He created.

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Echad = Oneness

אחד
‘echâd

A numeral from H258; properly united, that is, one; or (as an ordinal) first: – a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any (-thing), apiece, a certain [dai-] ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.

Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one [echad]!

Does this say there is more than one God? No, He is “oneness” but the word is “echad”, it’s a plural oneness. It is the same oneness when Adam and Eve become one flesh. (Gen. 2:24), you shall become “echad”; the two become one. And a third person is procreated, there is one in three, there is three in one. We are made in His image and likeness. Yes, there is one God but there is more than one person. [source]

Since God is referred to as "echad" in the same way as man and woman are referred to as "echad" this heavily implies that the oneness of marriage reflects the oneness of God. [source]

Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one [echad] flesh.

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace."

Isaiah 44:6

"This is what the LORD says — Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last;
Apart from me there is no God."

Please cross reference this with Jesus’ words to John in Revelation 1:17-18

"Do not be afraid.
I am the First and the Last.
I am the Living One.
I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever."

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The Word was with God, the Word was…

Good question…

In the book of Isaiah Jehovah says, “I am God and there is no God other than Me”. (Is. 45:5) If there’s no God other than Jehovah, and there is no indefinite article – “a god” – in the Greek language (and in that text it’s not there), how can Jesus only be “a god” if there’s only one God? That is the question. I’ve never been able to find somebody who could answer.

"Five Questions if Your’e A Jehovah’s Witness" – How Can Jesus Be an Angel? (page 2 of 7)

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