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Todd Bentley - Does God operate like this? NO! But Aliens do!

Posted in Christianity, Gnosticism, New-Age, Philosophy & Religion, Political/Christian, Prophecy, Religion, The Strange, Theology, discernment, mysticism by livingjourney on May 17th, 2008

Listen to Todd Bentley’s encounter of a spiritual kind. This is NOT from God.

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  1. Meaghan said, on June 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    Hi there, Let me start off by saying that I share the same convictions as you (or should I say know the Truth as you do) in regards to Todd Bentley and his so-called “revival”. Unfortunately for me this has caused division in my immediate family and caused me to leave my church, a church which was a cell group off of the TACF (Toronto Airport Fellowship, formerly Toronto Vineyard). I was forwarded the attached “Theological Response to Criticism of the Lakeland Outpouring and Todd Bentley” by my father (who, until now hasn’t spoken/corresponded with me regarding this important issue since I left his/our church). If you will notice, as you scroll down in the body of this email, the paper was done for John Arnott, who, as you may or may not know is the pastor of the TACF. Please respond to me at: meaghan.pieroway@mcmillan.ca. I’m praying that you, or someone you are connected with will have the time and skill to respond to this paper.

    God Bless,

    Meaghan

  2. livingjourne said, on June 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Meaghan, I know exactly what you are going through. This is personal for me too, on many levels.

    I will pray that you keep yourself true to His Word.

    Here is a review from Jacob Prasch on what he considers Gary S Greig’s Apologetic for the Florida Outpouring a Pseudo-Scholarly Apologetic For The Unbiblical Antics Of Todd Bentley And The Lakeland, Florida Sequel To The Failed Revivals Of Kansas City, Toronto, And Pensacola.

    Go to the link provided to get the full review, I have only submitted a small part of it.

    I know Jacob Prasch personally, and he is very sound in his exegetical hermeneutics. He is a lecturer at Midlands Bible College and he currently operates missions in Africa. He walks the talk.

    by J. Jacob Prasch
    Moriel Ministries

    Faculty of Hebrew, Judaism and Judeo Christian Hermeneutics
    Midland Bible College and Divinity School, University of Wales, UK

    Jacob Prasch, is the author of several books and holds a non-cessationist pneumatology. He believes in the ongoing operation of charismatic gifts as defined and practiced biblically, but firmly rejects the alleged “revivals” of Lakeland, Toronto, Brownsville, and Pensacola as carnal and demonically-influenced counterfeits of biblical charismata. [...]

    [...]The Facts and the Camouflage

    The first pillar of Gary Greig’s apologetic reverses what the Scriptures teach about “fruit” as the basis of evaluating whether one is of God or not, with what Scripture identifies as disdeskein (doctrinal teaching) as a basis of evaluation. He deceives others and himself by reversing the two (2 Timothy 3:13).

    Biblically, we judge people by their fruit (the fruit of the Holy Spirit) but we judge teaching, revelations, and praxis by contrasting them with scriptural dogma.

    Greig attempts to circumvent evaluation of revelation and praxis by making “fruit” the criterion by which the effect is evaluated. This is low-grade, pseudo-academic fraud that would see Greig demolished in the first round of a properly monitored theological debate in the presence of independent scholarly opinion.

    Conversely, Greig attempts to circumvent examining the “fruit” of Todd Bentley’s personal life by elongated, semi-academic arguments avoiding the fundamental issue that the fruit of the Holy Spirit is ekreitei, or “self-control” (Galatians 5:23; Titus 1:8), and not the lack of it as observed in the Lakeland clone of Toronto and Pensacola. The fruit of the Holy Spirit is also prautas, or “gentleness” (Galatians 5: 23). Gentleness is not evident in Todd Bentley’s claim that the Lord told him to beat a woman’s legs on the ground like a baseball bat, or his knocking out a small Chinese gentleman’s teeth.

    Using a rabbinic style of argumentation, Paul instructs the Galatian brethren to identify what the true karpas, or “fruit” of the Holy Spirit is by first defining what it is not, and then contrasting the two. The heresy (airasei - engendering division on the basis of false doctrine)and drunken-style revelling (methai komoi) imitated at Toronto and Pensacola are deeds of the flesh (erga tas sarkos) revealed in Galatians as mutually exclusive to the genuine fruit of the Spirit. Those practicing such things will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven (Galatians 5:21).

    Instead of judging Bentley by the fruit of the Spirit (or his lack of it), and instead of judging by Scripture the doctrinal teachings, alleged revelations, and praxis, Greig attempts rather to mislead his readers by persuading them to test these things by a diatribe of lame academic arguments packaged in pseudo-scholarly rhetoric aimed, not at the actual issue, but at avoidance of the issue. His boots are on the wrong feet. Bentley does not exhibit the fruit of the Holy Spirit, nor are his doctrines, alleged revelations, and praxis scriptural.

    Hope this helps, thanks for commenting.

    Vee

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