The Great Divide!
This is a Red Flag Post !!!




Please carefully read the following scripture…
Luk 12:3-5 Therefore, whatever you said in the darkness will be heard in the light; and whatever you spoke in the ear in the secret rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops. But I say to you, My friends, stop being afraid of the ones killing the body, and after these things not having anything more they can do. But I will warn you whom you should fear; fear the One who after the killing has authority to cast into Hell; yea, I say to you, Fear that One!
Luk 12:8-12 But I say to you, Everyone who may confess Me before men, the Son of Man will also confess him before the angels of God. But he that denies me before man shall be denied before the angels of God. And everyone who shall say a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven Him; but the ones blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven. But when they bring you in before synagogues and rulers and the authorities, do not be anxious how or what you shall reply, or what you should say; for the Holy Spirit will teach you in the same hour what you ought to say.
I wanted to start from this scripture today. Please read it once again.
It speaks about being willing to stand in the Truth of God’s Word. Carla has been documenting some things about an upcoming conference called ‘Break Forth’. And in that conference there are going to be many contemplative, emergent/emerging teachers that have been given a huge platform to put forth some not so orthodox new doctrine. See her first two posts called ‘Break Forth‘ and ‘More Break Forth‘.
She noticed that Kay Arthur was going to be attending this conference; obviously this is of some concern. Carla had emailed Kay Arthur and she received a reply which I think should be read, you can find the reply HERE.
After I read the reply that Carla had received, I instantly recalled the above verses. I felt that they were appropriate to this particular situation. I do pray that Kay Arthur stands in the Truth and is not fearful of man but is fearful of God. I also pray that as she enters into the midst of a church built on post-modern uncertainty, which is truly in spiritual darkness, that she be protected from that darkness and that the Lord uses her. I pray that she be given the words to say as the Holy Spirit who can only tell the Truth prompts her. I pray that she has the strength in the Lord to shout the truth from the housetops.
I have a strong feeling that there is about to be a huge public divide, an unholy divide, (Jerusalem and God’s Temple Mount is not the only thing about to divide, J J Prasch says whatever you see happening in the material is happening in the spiritual, I agree with that!) and what has been intimated in private will soon be announced in public. Persecution in the west against the saints will soon become more public.
We recently have had the Roger Oakland incident. And I wonder how many other pastors are going to be put in a similar situations because they do not fear man, but rather fear God and will not compromise on the Truth but rather shout it out and proclaim it wherever they go - even in the Church - God forbid!
I speak of a post-modern church full of uncertainty, and it reminded me of post that I read recently in a blog called ‘True Discernment’. In that blog there is an interesting post called ‘Tear Down the Idols‘. It speaks about a tower being built, one that is about to have an individual rise up out of it. I found that to be very interesting indeed. (Important Update: I misunderstood this particular part of the prophecy…please read the comment by John who cleared this up for me. John explains more on this prophecy….
In my mind, the understanding was given that this tower had been spiritually suffocating the saints, but God said he is in the process of bringing this tower down.
The fact that Satan could have such a position and prominence in the church structure and tradition is serious cause for evaluating and scrutinizing our way of handling the living organism called “the church.”)
Sobering words!
I think that this tower of Babel which is built on mysticism, Gnosticism and biblically unsound ancient worship is about to give birth to something so sinister, beyond our belief actually. This tower of many languages and practices is an abomination to God, and what will come forth out of it will be speaking blasphemous things against the Lord. The anti-christ is already shaping this hideous abomination and he already sits within its walls. I ask… how long until he appears?
Because of Rick Warren and his worldly P.E.A.C.E plan a political manoeuvre is being accepted within this tower and it is slowly unfolding before our very eyes. America’s favourite pastor is inviting in…A feminist, pro-abortion, pro-family planning, anti-god, pro-gay presidential candidate to his church with the UN Secretary General… is this the beginning of his PEACE Plan unveiled?
As the leaders of this movement are gently but surely aligning themselves with New Age teachers, I would like to share something else for you to consider…
Barbara Marx Hubbard, author of Emergence: The Shift from Ego to Essence, and a present day mystic, publicly despises Bible- believing Christians and believes we are coming into a time period of the emerging human who finally recognizes his own Divinity.
She states: “You and I are sitting at the hub of the emerging world…. now actually evolving our human species and our world itself…. we are living through an evolutionary crisis, a crisis of the birth of something new. It is vital now that what is emerging converges, … so that as the structures in the old system destabilize, elements of the emerging system self-organize as the new culture cocreated by a more conscious and empathetic humanity.” Interview with Andrew Cohen and BMH
The ancient wisdom and the emerging human that McLaren and other emerging church leaders are seeking is none other than the emerging spirituality that Barbara Marx Hubbard, Thomas Keating and other New Agers practice and promote. McLaren and these “Christian” leaders will be greatly disappointed in the end and will lead thousands, possibly millions, astray. These concepts date back long before this “new” emerging church movement began. @lighthouse
The old structures are being destablised, she is right! The soon to be fallen church is losing its foundation, and is sitting on a bed of shifting sand. It cannot stand for long.
The Truth of God’s Word is something that the Church should be standing on, and not on man’s post-modern pluralistic mish-mash philosophy that is ever-changing because of its experiential and highly subjective inner truth that has no cohesive outside objective reality.
We are witnessing the most important time in history; we are witnessing God’s bride flirting with other lovers and in some cases she is in bed with them. The soon to be fallen church will become the bride of anti-christ, Satan. This I say with concern and great caution.
I cannot even begin to articulate how I feel about all of this. I pray for strength during these times and for us to continue to hold on to what was once delivered to the saints. I pray that we test everything and I mean everything, even our experiences, against the infallible Word of God. The Word of God should be our only objective measuring tool, His Word will never change, nor will His message.










This all weighs heavily on my heart.
Thanks Vee.
I know it weighs heavily, I hear you, I really do.
“It speaks about a tower being built, one that is about to have an individual rise up out of it. I found that to be very interesting indeed.”
Hello this is John from Truediscernment.wordpress.com
I think you misunderstood the prophecy, there was no person about ready to rise up out of the tower. The white washed tower itself was the satanic influences via non biblical traditions in the church preventing the saints from being able to be a functioning part of the true body of Christ, and other saints began to remove one brick at a time from this tower in order to remove the satanic influences / traditions from the church.
God Bless
Thanks for stopping by John…
I see, it says that God will rise up the individual…
Thanks for clearing that up for me John.
And I agree with you when you say…
Very true words!!!
Your welcome!
Hey I love your beach, any chance of stowing away in your suitcase the next time you go? LOL!
God Bless and have a great Thanksgiving Holiday!
I know I really should want to share it..
but seriously, I have seen over crowded beaches before, and this one never gets overcrowded!
We are very lucky.
I had an email sent to me with photos of a beach somewhere in South Korea, and you could not see the sand for the people!
So, perhaps just a few more people here would be alright! Just a few!
I hope that all my American friends (Carla, do you have thanksgiving???) have a great Thanksgiving Holiday!
Funny - I just read your blog “Roger Oakland - what is happening?” and had and have had this very thought, “we are in the middle of the great divide,” and then saw you had a post today on that very topic. But I do believe it is so true and we are coming into the last days. When I have the time I will have to come back to this post as I am interested in reading all the links. Anyways, God bless and keep speaking the Truth! I will definitely be in prayer about the “Break Forth” conference and Kay Arthur’s part. Do you know the exact dates on that? Oh nevermind, I see you have links. ~Jen
Thanks Jen for stopping by..
The division is definitely happening, and it will increase as we get closer to our Blessed Hope!
God Bless you.
Vee, I don’t blame you for keeping your beach to yourself.
And yes, we had our Canadian Thanksgiving in October, eh?
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