The Todd Friel and Doug Pagitt transcript

You may remember last month the conservative blogging world were all up in arms about the interview between Todd Friel and Doug Pagitt. Carla from ‘More books and things‘ sent me the mp3 of the interview, and I remember listening to it in my lounge room with absolute frustration and sadness at this type of heresy that is now coming from the ‘Emer‘ crowd and its leaders.

Sadly, I am not surprised by this, and those who persevere in the Truth of His Word are not surprised by it either. They too, have realised that today we are in the last days before our ‘Blessed Hope’ and His glorious appearing.

Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ

I have just found the transcript to the whole interview for those who do not have a fast connection - you can read the interview on-line here.

Todd: Yea, do you think, do you think there’s an eternal damnation for people who are not Christians?

Doug: Yeah, well, I think that there’s.. I think there’s all kinds of … I mean that, that, damnation would sort of be that.. that there’s parts of the uh, life in Creation that seem to be counter to what God is doing and those are the things that are eliminated and removed and done away with. And so I think that’s what damnation is, and so there’s people who want to live out that kind of uhm, wanna have that good judgment – the judgment of God in their life. I mean you know Judge… Judgment in a biblical fashion meaning that God remakes… that God remakes the world.

Todd: OK, Doug, hold on Doug… Doug hold on a second. I have no idea what you just said. Here’s what I think Hell is: eternal damnation, God sends lawbreakers to a place where there’s weeping, there’s gnashing of teeth, a lake of sulpher, the worm never dies, eternal conscious torment. Agree or disagree?

Doug: Disagree.