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	<title>Comments on: Hyper-Arminianism can lead to Humanism</title>
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		<title>By: livingjourney</title>
		<link>http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/hyper-arminianism-can-lead-to-humanism/#comment-21126</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy you say...

&lt;blockquote&gt;The word “paradox” in theology is almost always, it seems to me, a camouflage-term to obscure what’s really going on: sheer contradiction. All this means is that the theological system itself needs to be reexamined and altered so as to *consistently* interpret Scripture rather than *inconsistently* interpreting it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you know of anyone who is doing this reexamination of theological systems?  If you do could you please name a few names, and perhaps some provide me with some links.

Thanks

Vee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy you say&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>The word “paradox” in theology is almost always, it seems to me, a camouflage-term to obscure what’s really going on: sheer contradiction. All this means is that the theological system itself needs to be reexamined and altered so as to *consistently* interpret Scripture rather than *inconsistently* interpreting it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you know of anyone who is doing this reexamination of theological systems?  If you do could you please name a few names, and perhaps some provide me with some links.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Vee</p>
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		<title>By: livingjourney</title>
		<link>http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/hyper-arminianism-can-lead-to-humanism/#comment-21103</link>
		<dc:creator>livingjourney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fairly old post, but thanks for reading it and finding the time to comment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fairly old post, but thanks for reading it and finding the time to comment. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  I'm an Arminian myself, but agree with at least some of the criticism levelled at Arminians who are overly pragmatic.  With my Calvinist siblings in Christ I certainly believe in the ability of the Holy Spirit to convict hearts, and that's what all believers should be counting on when they proclaim the gospel.

Having said that, I am continually frustrated by the false dichotomy painted by Calvinists between Scripture and "secular logic."  There is no such animal as "secular logic" - as if humans invented reason or something.  Reason/logic is part of God's own mind, and He embedded that construct in *our* minds.

I subscribe fully to the authority of Scripture - but Scripture must be interpreted logically.  This does not mean logic is some extrabiblical "force" or "authority" to which Scripture must bow.  It simply means that God is, among other things, a rational Being; He doesn't contradict Himself; He is true to Himself.  Should we not expect, then, that His word, likewise, will be true to itself, will not contradict itself?

There is simply no basis whatsoever for interpreting Scripture in a manner that is logically inconsistent, because all we will end up with, in that case, are interpretations that contradict each other.  It does not good to say, "Well, that's how Scripture reads, so we'll have to accept the paradox."  The word "paradox" in theology is almost always, it seems to me, a camouflage-term to obscure what's really going on: sheer contradiction.  All this means is that the theological system itself needs to be reexamined and altered so as to *consistently* interpret Scripture rather than *inconsistently* interpreting it.

In Jesus,
Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  I&#8217;m an Arminian myself, but agree with at least some of the criticism levelled at Arminians who are overly pragmatic.  With my Calvinist siblings in Christ I certainly believe in the ability of the Holy Spirit to convict hearts, and that&#8217;s what all believers should be counting on when they proclaim the gospel.</p>
<p>Having said that, I am continually frustrated by the false dichotomy painted by Calvinists between Scripture and &#8220;secular logic.&#8221;  There is no such animal as &#8220;secular logic&#8221; - as if humans invented reason or something.  Reason/logic is part of God&#8217;s own mind, and He embedded that construct in *our* minds.</p>
<p>I subscribe fully to the authority of Scripture - but Scripture must be interpreted logically.  This does not mean logic is some extrabiblical &#8220;force&#8221; or &#8220;authority&#8221; to which Scripture must bow.  It simply means that God is, among other things, a rational Being; He doesn&#8217;t contradict Himself; He is true to Himself.  Should we not expect, then, that His word, likewise, will be true to itself, will not contradict itself?</p>
<p>There is simply no basis whatsoever for interpreting Scripture in a manner that is logically inconsistent, because all we will end up with, in that case, are interpretations that contradict each other.  It does not good to say, &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s how Scripture reads, so we&#8217;ll have to accept the paradox.&#8221;  The word &#8220;paradox&#8221; in theology is almost always, it seems to me, a camouflage-term to obscure what&#8217;s really going on: sheer contradiction.  All this means is that the theological system itself needs to be reexamined and altered so as to *consistently* interpret Scripture rather than *inconsistently* interpreting it.</p>
<p>In Jesus,<br />
Andy</p>
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		<title>By: livingjourney</title>
		<link>http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/hyper-arminianism-can-lead-to-humanism/#comment-18869</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it’s interesting to note that probably the majority of the Emerging/Emergent crowd are actually Calvinist in persuasion…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really, I didn't know that!

What's the point in being, ahem... missional then??? (note sarcasm).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it’s interesting to note that probably the majority of the Emerging/Emergent crowd are actually Calvinist in persuasion…</p></blockquote>
<p>Really, I didn&#8217;t know that!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point in being, ahem&#8230; missional then??? (note sarcasm).</p>
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		<title>By: mike macon</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike macon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW (haven't had time to comment until this morning, since I forgot to adjust my clocks for the end of Daylight Savings Time here in the States) - it's interesting to note that probably the majority of the Emerging/Emergent crowd are actually &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calvinist&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; in persuasion...

;D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW (haven&#8217;t had time to comment until this morning, since I forgot to adjust my clocks for the end of Daylight Savings Time here in the States) - it&#8217;s interesting to note that probably the majority of the Emerging/Emergent crowd are actually <i><b>Calvinist</b></i> in persuasion&#8230;</p>
<p>;D</p>
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