I mentioned to my husband that one of the most important things I saw missing in RC theology is the teaching of regeneration by the Holy Spirit which has to preceed sanctification by the Holy Spirit.
(being born again first, then being made spiritually mature -holiness- as an ongoing process in this new life).

Joh 3:49 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?”

If you have to has about this “being born again” thing… chances are you have not been born again!

If you don’t know what it means… and are unclear about what happens when it happens then I venture to guess it hasn’t happened to you yet! When it happens, there is not denying it…

Thanks for sharing all that you did Bonnie…

God Bless you as you continue in your walk with the Lord!

V

John 20:29, “Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? BLESSED ARE THEY WHO HAVE NOT SEEN, and yet believed.”

I Peter 1:21-22 “Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
SEEING ye have *purified your souls IN OBEYING THE TRUTH THROUGH THE SPIRIT* unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently”

I John 2:3-5 “AND HEREBY DO WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”

Those who love God are intent on obeying Him and giving God the glory. They need no physical signs of His presence. His Spirit bears witness with their spirit that they belong to Him. (Romans 8:16)

We know we belong to Christ (and have His Spirit) because He disciplines us(not letting us get away with our sin)- see the entire chapter of Hebrews 12.

All of THESE things are evidence of the Holy Spirit’s presence and annointing in a believer’s life. What happened at Pentecost and in the early church (tongues of fire/speaking in tongues) were not to be sought according to the Apostle Paul. They were signs for a particular time and age to signal the beginning of the church. It is not signs we are to look for, but the evidence of a life in transformation, becoming conformed to the person of Christ, growing in obedience and holiness.

There is much confusion in the church today created those who attempt to force God into a position of revealing Himself in a particular manner just because He did so at one time (His character never changes however). We are to test the spirits to see if they are of God, not believing every spirit. Believing that God must manifest Himself in particular ways places people in a position to have their faith shipwrecked when they become disillusioned after they didn’t receive their miracle or manifestation, or leads them down a pathway of delusion when they received a false one. Don’t forget that Pharoah’s magicians could also perform signs and wonders, and they definitely were not agents of the Almighty Creator of the universe, our loving and just God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. If it is signs and wonders you are seeking rather than Christ Himself you will probably get what you asked for, but it more than likely won’t be from the heavenly Father - more likely from the father of lies, Satan, who appears as an angel of light.

Sharnael Wolverton, founder of Swiftfire Ministries International, was called to the ministry at an early age. In her pursuit for God, she went to Bible school and later a graduate school seminary, until the Lord called her in to a place of “the school of the Holy Spirit”. During this incredible period of seeking intimacy with Him, she encountered many dreams, visions, visitations and divine appointments leading to the birthing of Swiftfire Ministries International. One divine appointment worth mentioning was with Bob Jones of White Dove Ministries who introduced her to a golden eagle named “Swift.” “Swift, is sent forth to those in order to carry the purposes of God swiftly.”

Another encounter was with Patricia King of Extreme Prophetic, who had also been introduced to Swift. Patricia confirmed to Sharnael not only the calling on her life to apostolic and prophetic ministry but the very desires of Sharnael’s heart for everyone to experience God and truly be called forth into their own personal destiny through training, equipping, impartation and activation.

And this about Bob Jones…

Bob Jones is one of the Kansas City Prophets. Seen by some as the most controversial of the Kansas City Prophets. Was removed from the Vineyard Anaheim because of sexual improprieties, which consisted of encouraging women to undress in his office so they could stand “naked before the Lord” in order to receive a “word.”

Talk about disgusting behaviour… and this angel swift is something that the followers of Patricia King from Extreme Prophetic are quite familiar with…

I have had dealings with Swift. He’s kind of awesome. Swift is an angel who is currently attached to Patricia’s ministry. He is simply a ministering spirit who’s mission is to help them swiftly accomplish what God gives them to do.

This explanation about the eagles and the New Apostolic Reformation is really scary stuff.

Thanks for your homework, once again!

Shamanism in the Church
Occult “Eagle Spirituality” Manifests in Popular “Prophetic” Ministries
http://www.thebereancall.org/node/2682

I was always taught to read, research, truly dig into the material i have in question before posting my opinion on the subject…so I guess that’s why i’m so shocked by your quick response. A response gathered after reading someone elses opinion on the matter instead of forming your own based of the actual teachings.

Just to do the flip side. You stated that you read Carla’s post and her provided links for backup on her ideas. What about the other side of this?

For every original there is a counterfeit. Just be careful who you judge the counterfeit to be. Knowledge truly is power…research both sides and never take a persons word for ANYthing..if you want to know about Branhams teaching..Go read some of his sermons. It’s that simple.

Maybe it’s just me, but I like to be real cautious before I dismiss something that is God wishing to bring me closer to his Word..and worse..set up a website to encourage others to do the same quick judgement.

So lets assess this situation. What are we questiong? The lights in images. Okay. Got that answer. Now who is the original and who is the one copying the original in this scenaro? Hmm…something to pray over isn’t it. Original and counterfeit.

Just so you know thousands were healed in Branhams ministry. By whom? God. (but don’t take my word for it Go and read up on the prayer meetings. Speak to those who went. Gather knowledge) Remember the man is not important. Don’t get caught up on a name. Look at the Word. For the man is but a mere vessel to be used in Gods design. May we all be so humble.

Oh and as for “What is with that?” in response to eagles? lol.

“But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.”
Isaiah 40:31, KJV

THAT is “what” is with it